My prediction is simply that rim brakes won't be making a come back, not that they will go away completely or disappear. I do not think rim braking will go away, especially with regards to road riding. I'm going to keep my argument centered around off road riding or gravel stuff because that is where I prefer to ride and where I see quite a few advantages for disc braking. I agree, I think small makers will cater to the market for those who prefer rim braking. I simply don't prefer rim braking after using both.
Hey, I got Velocity Blunt SS on my Niner turned to gravel duty. Those rims are great; can't say anything negative about them. I have had 0 issues out of those rims (paul disc word/fhub hubs) and predict I'll be riding that setup for many years problem free. But, I'm probably going to be purchasing a Gus. I like the bike and think that setup with something like a Jones Bar or Wavie Bar, it will be a really good bike for the off road stuff I like to ride. The braking system on it are not a deal braker (pun intended). On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 6:21:32 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I say that you're prediction is wrong. > > Distinction: Rim brake market, and rim brake advantages. The market may or > may not survive -- I think there remains enough demand that manufacturing > will survive healthily, at least among small makers for the aficionado > crowd; I'll bet Rivendell and Compass, to name just 2, will continue to > make rim brakes of one sort or another. > > Advantages: Rim brakes have this advantage, that they work *unimprovably* > for many, if not most uses, and they are cheaper (well, count Compass out > on this one) (heck, count Riv out too), but they are simpler, lighter, > modulate better than many if not most or all mechanical discs (I can't > speak to hydraulic ones), allow flexible forks, and in the eyes of some, me > included, look better. Point: They have no disadvantages for many uses, and > some real advantages. > > I like discs; hell, I like the ancient BB7, at least the Road model that > came out circa 2015 -- there are better ones on the market, but these BB7 > Roads work so well that I personally haven't sufficient motive to change. I > know Jan pooh poohs mechanical discs, but he's just plain wrong on this > matter. But calipers and V brakes and even cantis if someone else beside me > sets them up just work so well that I can't see the entire global > population giving them over for discs. > > I like discs for riding where conditions accelerate rim wear -- dirt > riding, rain riding (last hypothetical); and I like discs because they let > you use strong rims that are yet very light (case in point, Velocity Blount > SS). > > Now, if you were to assert that, say, rod or stirrup brakes would > disappear, I'd agree, but the Bowden cable freed us from that particular > tyranny. > > Patrick Moore, who spent much time and sweat and physical and mental > energy as a boy trying to get rod brakes to work *well.* > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Ryan M. <ryan.merri...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> My prediction...rim brakes are not going to make a comeback...not in >> mountain biking (or "hillbiking"). There just isn't any real good reason to >> use a rim brake over a modern disc brake today given that there is a >> definite performance advantage and a huge supply of products available at >> all price points and most work very well. I mean, I'll buy a bike with >> canti posts and ride it happily, but it is not my preference. It's not a >> deal breaker but I don't see canti posts and think "so awesome!" >> >> I have always thought mechanical disc brakes worked about the same as a >> v-brake (hydros being a different conversation) with regards to >> power, modulation and setup until I used a Paul Klamper. That brake is so >> freaking easy to set up; it's powerful; it feels really good in use and I >> just don't know why I haven't been using it on every bike I can. Anyway, I >> don't want to turn this thread into a canti-vs-disc argument. I got my >> preferences, for sure. >> >> I'm sure someone will make a rim compatible with this bike and it's need >> for a rim braking surface for a long time; I wouldn't worry about that. >> Choices will be less, of course. >> >> On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 11:13:31 AM UTC-5, masmojo wrote: >> >>> I personally wouldn't worry much about the rims if they potentially were >>> something that could be more popular in the future. Examples: moustache >>> handlebars, normal width 650B rims, etc., but I am guessing 2.8" tires will >>> require a wider rim be made. Plenty of them in all diameters, until you add >>> rim braking capability and then it drops to none, one, two(?). >>> Of course who knows, rim brakes might make a comeback!? >>> Even when it comes to regular 650b rim brake rims pickings are slim; I >>> presume they are prolific enough between retro bikes & modern recent >>> offerings to always be available, but who knows? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > ************************************************************************** > ************** > *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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