I'd be interested to hear the tire and wheel differences in your two builds. 3 to 5mph seems excessive, but not if we are talking knobby on heavy wheels vs. slick on light wheels. Also, are the fits that much different? If your body sits a lot differently on the Riv compared to the Soma you can be killing off some power potential. (I seem to be suffering from this on my cross bike which I just cannot get fit to me properly...probably will be on the lookout for something different this winter.)
On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 9:34:41 PM UTC-5, G.E. wrote: > > Just thought I'd throw in my experience, for what it may be worth. > > I currently own a Roadini (non-orange) and have owned a Soma ES in the > past (also had a Riv-made-for-Soma San Marcos). I am a vertically > challenged rider, so my experience may not be the same as someone who rides > a more standard size; however, comparing the 47cm Roadini to the 46 (now > 48) cm ES, the Roadini fits me better, but I both felt and physically was > faster on the ES - significantly faster (averaging 3-5mph faster on 20-40 > mile rides). The Soma geometry seems to not be quite right for me so that > my body sits in a rather odd position with pedals too far behind me. The > Roadini is more comfortable, which in theory allows the body to handle > longer distances, but the slower speeds leave me frustrated on many rides. > > My ES was actually set up with "worse" parts than the Roadini (the ES was > equipped with Sora level components while the Roadini is built with > Ultegra), but the ES was a speedier ride, even with the lower level > components. So, depending on what I was looking for, and assuming that > Soma's geometry works for the rider, I wouldn't necessarily be against > purchasing a Soma. Though with that said, I wouldn't reject the Riv either > as others that I've heard from haven't had the same experience I've had and > sometimes comfort is more important to the rider than the speedometer. :) > > On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 8:28:37 AM UTC-6, Alan H wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Looking for some feedback from folks here about the orange Roadinis. >> >> Last week I placed an order for one of the new orange Roadinis in a size >> 50 (thanks to my darned 80 cm pbh). After a week without any news from Riv >> (and having my cc charged), I called to find out when the bike would ship. >> I was told that they had received a lot of orders and were running a light >> crew because of Interbike and that my bike would pack and ship yesterday >> (Friday). >> >> Yesterday I got a call from Vince saying that there was a problem. He >> told me that the brake bridge on the orange Roadini frames was in the wrong >> place and that standard road brake calipers wouldn't work. While he told me >> the frame would work with longer pull brakes (like Tektros or Pauls), >> frames with the correct brake bridge wouldn't be back in until December. >> >> Needless to say I'm a little disappointed and frustrated, especially >> since I logged on here today and saw folks talking about their new orange >> Roadinis. Has anyone else gotten a similar story from Riv? >> >> On a related topic, since I'm apparently not getting a Roadini, does >> anyone have experience with Soma's road frames? In particular I like the >> look of the Stanyan >> <https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/stanyan-18-frame-set> in pearl >> white. It has a geometry similar to their ES model and is a fully lugged >> steel frame at a very attractive price point. The Roadini was obviously my >> first choice, but I wonder how the Soma stacks up in terms of build and >> ride qualities. >> >> Thanks in advance for you input! >> >> -Alan >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
