I own both of these bikes and use them for pretty similar purposes, namely daily commuting and errands plus longer/loaded touring (Joe, albatross) and stripped down Road rides (Sam, noodle bar). Both are stable, neither is ridiculously heavy, and they both ride great either with or without a load.
I agree with the earlier poster who said that a lighter wheelset for your existing bike might make a difference that would keep you from buying another bike. (This could be an argument for or against buying the wheelset, obviously.) My Sam had Alex DM-18 rims with 38 mm Little Big Ben tires, and is a totally different beast on its new Dyads and Jack Browns. So you may be able to avoid n+1 if you buy new shoes. If I were to choose between the two, which is apparently not my strength, I would buy the Joe if it were for wider tires on rough roads/trails, the Sam for 42 mm or narrower tires on mostly pavement or gravel. But I agree with those who have said you really can't go wrong with either frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
