Steven-
Weird, I use Strava and have never once been forced into a race, 
competition or challenge! I have ridden and run and walked and hiked slower 
than before, faster than before and just the same. I enjoy the analysis it 
gives me and lets me know my general fitness level. I have, however, never 
once been forced into the competition. I hope others aren't being forced 
into servitude to compete by their phone!

-J

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 12:58:48 PM UTC-8, Steven Seelig wrote:
>
> +1 on the Wahoo Element although I personally stay away from Strava and 
> use Ride with GPS.  If you use Strava, you are buying into the whole 
> competition thing, like it or not, which is not my bag.  Ride with GPS does 
> the same, I think, and permits your to check out other rides in your area 
> or, even better, when you travel to a new town.  So rather than wonder 
> where to ride when in unfamiliar territory, you get to plan rides based on 
> turn by turn directions uploaded by someone else.  Really fun if you are a 
> planner, like me. Not the most intuitive program to use, but after awhile 
> you will get the hang of it.
>
> On the cost side, it is a bit steep but I justified the purchase at REI by 
> getting back the dividend and knowing that I no longer have to worry, 
> worry, worry about burning the cell phone battery using a computer paired 
> to the phone.  No more psychic anxiety on that front. The Wahoo can operate 
> on its own, and pretty much lasts an entire day or two of riding.  
>
> If you don't have one, and would never spend the $ on something as 
> self-indulgent at this, I would say that with the holiday approaching this 
> is the perfect gift.  Maybe not for Deacon Partick, though.  More wool for 
> him. (-:
>
> Steve Seelig
>
> On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> I use Strava on the phone for 'non-serious' rides.  I use a Wahoo Elemnt 
>> for 'serious' stuff, which syncs to Strava.  Wahoo also seamlessly 
>> integrates over to Ride With GPS.  
>>
>> So, for commute miles, I touch one button on my phone and it records my 
>> mileage.  For a route where I need directions, I'll map it out on RWGPS and 
>> sync it to my Wahoo.  For a ride like I did with Grant on Saturday, I 
>> record it on Strava, and upload that data to Ride With GPS so I can do it 
>> again without Grant because I've already got the breadcrumbs.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 2:15:22 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>>>
>>> Bill’s thread on cycling goals made me realize that I don’t have an easy 
>>> and consistent method of tracking my mileage.  With the new year upon us, 
>>> I’d like to find a good way to track bike mileage across 3 bikes that I 
>>> ride pretty evenly.  So, how do you all track your mileage on the bike? 
>>>  I’m looking for any suggestions for products, cel phone holders, apps, 
>>> websites, whatever will make it easy to track over the year across multiple 
>>> bikes. 
>>>
>>> Thanks. 
>>> John
>>
>>

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