Thanks for this description and the photos. I use my panniers for shopping,
but there are times when even 2 Ortlieb Rollers are too small; these are 12
liters bigger (does that include the pockets? If not, even bigger) compared
to the 40 l of the Ortliebs. One day ...

On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:02 PM Craig Montgomery <cmontgomery...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> They're huge Jon. You might be better off with the Kendalls. On sale now
> at SJS for a hundred bucks. 32 litres.
>
> https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/luggage/0-carradice-kendal-panniers-green-with-honey-straps-32-litre/?geoc=US
>
> On the other hand, don't know what those people were talking about when
> they said stuff flew out of the rear pockets of the Super C's. They must
> have been riding upside down. The pockets are huge. I could stuff my mom's
> shitzu into one (gladly). They are not strapped but clipped. The adjustment
> is minimal but they're made for touring. You're supposed to stuff 'em. A
> liter bottle each is one option. Take a look at how I do it. The left is
> stove kit (2 pots, rocket stove, cleaning cloth) and a butane canister. The
> right is kitchen box (utensils, knife, pot holder, lighters, sundries,
> etc.) and a couple days worth of dinners. All that just in the rear
> pockets!
>
> Craig in Tucson
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 8:20 PM john Bokman <jpbco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Craig, those are gorgeous bags, and you make a strong case for them. I
>> only wish there were a size between the small fronts (28 liters) and the
>> enormous rears (54 liters!).
>>
>> I am usually of a “go bigger, why not?” mindset. But these are really
>> large.
>> Choices, choices….arrgh! Big or small?
>>
>> Question: Looking at reviews, it appears that there is universal
>> agreement that the outside pocket of the large panniers is prone to
>> spilling its contents because the strap does not snug enough. Do you find
>> this to be the case? Or could one simply punch another hole in the strap?
>>
>> I would need this outside pocket for sundries in my day to day. I need
>> some kind of pocket (zippered or otherwise) in my day-to-day pannier.
>> Something in which to stash wallet, keys, phone, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 10:46 PM, Craig Montgomery <cmontgomer...@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> These are the guys I'm sure. Tough as nails. Super C rears are huge.
>> You'll master the hook thingie up top pretty quickly. You have to position
>> the bottom (slideable) hook for the specific struts of your rack. I use
>> Nitto Big Racks front and rear. Then what I do is wrap some cotton
>> handlebar tape around the strut where the hook touches it. Duct tape would
>> work too. That makes the fit a bit more positive, and quieter (if you ride
>> unladen they can rattle at the hook). That cushion also helps to reduce
>> stress on the slider hook. Another neat thing about the Super C rears is
>> that the tops lay even with your rack. That way you can pile stuff (in my
>> case sleeping bag, pad, tent, AND a camp chair-indulge me, I'm an old man)
>> on top of your rack. The old Super C's puffed up when you filled them to
>> capacity. Of course, don't forget the coolness factor.
>>
>> [image: Super C Configuration.jpg]
>> Craig in Tucson
>>
>> On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 11:28:22 AM UTC-7, John Bokman wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have the "new" Super C's with the cam-style hooks and lower
>>> securing clip?
>>> I'm curious if the "new" mounting system is:
>>> 1. As secure as a standard good ol' hooks and bungee system, and
>>> 2. A hassle to get on and off?
>>>
>>> I love Carradice stuff, but am dubious about this securing system.
>>>
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