Hi Patrick,

If you're going to grind a lot of beans, then an Encore Baratza is your 
best bet. You can buy refurbished ones from their website just under $100.

I highly recommend staying away from any ceramic burr grinders like the 
Hario or Porlex. I've had both and they don't compare to more high end 
manual grinders. 

I have a Kinu M47. There is no equal manual hand-held grinder I've tried. 
It outclasses my Lido 3 and Aergrind. Easier grind adjustment, feels more 
sturdy, easy to take apart and clean, awesome grind catch cup. It's my only 
used grinder for the past few months. I make espresso, aeropress, to 
pourover, and it handles well if not better than my electric Encore Sette 
(which I've had to get parts replaced a couple of times). It's got a 47mm 
burr which is bigger than Lidos, Commandantes, etc. I can grind 15g of 
beans in probably 10-15 secs depending on the roast. It took about 20 secs 
to grind the same amount on my Capresso electric grinder. Also took around 
30-35secs on my Hario and Porlex. 

Kinu sells a cheaper and smaller Kinu M47 Traveler. It's a little over $100 
cheaper than its bigger brother, but keeps the same burr size at 47mm. 


The Aergrind is a good manual grinder that is portable. Smaller burrs than 
the Kinu, but it's also cheaper. I got mine for 80 pounds direct from 
Knock's website. The quality is not as high as the Kinu, but it's cheaper. 
I prefer it over my Lido because the grind adjustment is much easier.


Hope that helps

Phil


On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 1:40:33 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Newby questions. I buy beans in bulk, freeze, and grind at need. I prefer 
> (convenience, results) a Melita filter, and thus grind very fine -- this 
> seems (experience) to give best flavor.
>
> Now: I use a blade grinder. After 20 seconds, the resulting very fine meal 
> seems quite uniform (an I don't notice any degradation in flavor from 
> heating -- the stuff doesn't get hot, just very mildly warm). BUT: grinding 
> beans straight from the freezer leaves the meal hard to handle: it' like 
> staticky fine long hair; it goes everywhere and makes a mess.
>
> So my question comes down to this: I'm perfectly happy with the taste from 
> a blade grinder and Melita, but I'd like a grinder that doesn't leave a 
> mess when grinding frozen beans very fine.
>
> Would a burr grinder help in this regard?
>
> I see electric burr grinders for sub $50, and I see Hario crank burr 
> grinders for the same price. Which are better, and why?
>
> This place says no burr grinder under $100 is any good (I take it Harios 
> are exceptions to this rule). Is this rule right?
>
> Lastly: Open to general comments about storing, grinding, and brewing 
> coffee, but I am happy with my routine except for the mess described.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Patrick Moore, drinking his coffee strong and black in Lenten ABQ, NM.
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