I don't understand the Waterford thing either. I don't know about the stays, but the tubes I know about on the Roadeo aren't exactly super light and thin, unless you are comparing them to the Bombadil.
At at least as stout as the Rambo, and stouter than the Legolas, I think, at least in the bigger sizes. They are billing it as a light, rackless, go-fast bike, but it's still Grant Petersen conservative in its own way. Plus, there are other light tubed bikes (Boulder Bike) where Waterford attaches canti studs w/ no fuss. So it would be interesting to have a better explanation for Waterford's reticence. As for Waterford, that seemed to me a cop-out > estimate, unless they can explain the issue. They can't be serious > unless they're talking about a re-paint as well. I'm having the bosses > put on an older frame as we speak, and the cost is more in line with > what Joel suggested. Also agree with him on the adjustability - I have > center mounts on a single speed that feel and work perfectly, only > wish I had them brazed on. > > Marty > > On Mar 26, 5:47 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: >> Oh, and the reason I say too bad if true is that at first the word >> from Riv was no DT braze ons for the Roadeo. Now it is an option. If >> demand is there, Riv may well find a way to convince Waterford the >> folly of its ways. >> >> On Mar 26, 4:45 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Well, that is too bad if true. >> >>> The Brazeons modulate better than centerposts. >> >>> Too strong would never be an issue. Pauls have near infinite and very >>> easy adjustability. Once you get the hang of it, in a matter of >>> minutes you can set the brakes where they will throw you over the >>> handlebars with barely a finger twitch or so slack you need to pull >>> the levers to the grip to slow down. >> >>> On Mar 26, 4:38 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> Speculating is fun, but I called and asked Keven for the answer. I've >>>> talked with him a few times about a Roadeo maybe next year, so I asked >>>> how it would work if I wanted Paul Racer posts. He said Waterford is >>>> violently opposed to posts. He asked them previously to do it for a >>>> customer and they said no. He asked more encouragingly and they >>>> reluctantly said "OK for $500 extra". So, in conclusion, he said if I >>>> had to have them, we should pursue a Nobillette built Riv custom. So >>>> there you have it. You can't get them, but it's no fault of >>>> Rivendells. >> >>>> Keven also pointed out all the obvious common sense things. The >>>> center mount ones are already so strong, maybe too strong. What more >>>> do you need?. If they are too strong you can replace them with less >>>> strong center mount ones. Having a single-source for any of your >>>> parts to keep your bike rideable is risky. All correct statements. >> >>>> On Mar 26, 2:15 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons. >>>>>> Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to go. >> >>>>> I have experienced original Racers in post mount and braze on. The >>>>> post mounts are probaby better than 99% of what is out there today. >>>>> The Brazeons are that much better than the post mounts. >> >>>>> Braze on is a cleaner look and easier to adjust and maintain as well. >>>>> Hope Riv agrees. >> >>>>> On Mar 26, 4:07 pm, Gino Zahnd <ginoza...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons. >>>>>> Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to go. >> >>>>>> -Gino >> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Boy those polished ones are the cats pajama's! >> >>>>>>> will Riv add the braze on's to the Roadeo? I can't tell from your >>>>>>> "conversation"? >> >>>>>>> ~Mike~ >> >>>>>>> On Mar 26, 11:00 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Hello, Keven? It's me Bill, can you sell me a bike to fit these >>>>>>>>> brakes? A Roadeo? Sounds perfecto! >> >>>>>>>> "How much to add braze on mounting posts? $25.00 per post? I am in >>>>>>>> heaven! >> >>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 12:05 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> Those are swank! I can't afford not to have a set. >> >>>>>>>>> "Hello, Keven? It's me Bill, can you sell me a bike to fit these >>>>>>>>> brakes? A Roadeo? Sounds perfecto! >> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 7:52 am, Marty <mgie...@mac.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> Very nice option for many builds. 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