I’m not sure on the stems  Mine have been fine.

I’m not sure about VO rims. Have you considered Pancentti or HED Belgium?

https://www.renehersecycles.com/product-category/components/rims/

John

On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 6:10 PM Pancake <abe.gard...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Good tips John, thanks. I am leaning toward hand built wheelset, but now
> that I've seen these Velo Orange Voyager
> <https://velo-orange.com/products/voyager-rim> rims I'd a good reason to
> get anything different.
>
> Their size (38-60mm tires) is right between Velocity's Atlas (isn't
> tubeless compatible/ready, tires 25-45mm) and Cliffhanger (tubeless ready,
> tires 45-65mm) at a similar/lower price and similar/lower weight. And they
> are silver vs. the black Cliffhanger (though the polished version is nice,
> it's quite a bit more expensive and not well stocked).
>
> I think you convinced me that Sapim spokes are worth considering, though
> I've had great luck so far with 4 wheels built with DT Swiss 14/15/14
> double butted spokes (2.0-1.8-2.0mm). Rich Lesnik seems to use the DT
> double butted spokes and he sure knows what he's doing. I'll look at the
> Sapims again, though 2.3-2.0mm is super beefy for what I'm after. Good
> "Choosing Spokes Advice" link.
>
> I forgot about the Rene/Panaracer sealant
> <https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Q3VKMN1>, seems like a good match
> with the Rene/Panaracer tires. I noticed that Orange sealant seeps a bit of
> orange residue on tan sidewall tires and I'd rather avoid that if the
> performance of the sealants is about the same.
>
> I'm guessing that the tubeless stems are all about the same, just need the
> right length for the rim size, right?
>
> Abe
>
> On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 5:53:24 AM UTC-7, John McBurney wrote:
>>
>> Another thing to consider if your doing a custom build is to use Sapim
>> Strong spokes. Sapim uses the highest strength stainless alloy in the
>> Stongs - came as C X-ray bladed spokes while DT uses a lower grade steel in
>> heavier grade spokes. The combination of a heavier gauge high strength
>> spoke with a robust rim built by a good wheelbuilder produces a truly
>> robust wheel.
>>
>> https://dcrwheels.co.uk/custom-wheelsets/choosing-spokes-advice/
>>
>>
>> I’m not sure what kind of tape we used but I think it was Stan’s.  Valves
>> Stans I’m pretty sure.
>>
>> For sealant I used Stan’s but have purchased the new Panaracer sealant
>> that Compass sells. I’ll use this when these tires need to be replaced.
>>
>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/new-sealant-for-rene-herse-tires/
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:44 PM Pancake <abe.g...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> And with John’s answer we have a winner! Thanks John!
>>>
>>> Next: did you use the Velocity 21mm tape and valves?
>>> Which sealant did you use? Orange Endurance? Stan’s?
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