This is the root of why I can’t have a long chainstay Rivendell bike. Without 
getting a much larger vehicle with much worse fuel economy, I cannot ever 
transport a bike that long (especially with fenders). I have an 89cm pbh, so 
I’m definitely in the large size range. A 59 Clem is not feasible on the public 
transportation here either.

I am sure they ride great, and almost got a 59 Clem anyway, but realized if I 
couldn’t put it in the car ever, or the racks on local buses/trains, it would 
seriously limit my usage.

Eamon
Seattle 

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