On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Beth <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sure.
> I would say, in no particular order:
>
> 1. Pedigree (who the builder is and his history of making good bikes)
> 2. Track record (how the bikes built have stood the test of time/
> elements/owner's abuse and or love :)
> 3. Comfort (how comfy I happen to feel on this particular bike)
> 4. (bonus!) Attention to detail. I like the hearts in the lugs and the
> poetry on the seat tube panel
>
> My own list:
1. Fit. For some reason, Rivs fit better, almost out of the box and
certainly with very little tweaking, than other bikes. Now, I've set up
other bikes to fit as well as or almost as well as Rivs, but it takes time
and work. The Rivs seem to come together, so to speak, immediately; and
this, as I've found with the Sam Hill, when setting them up very
differently. The two customs are racy with bars 2" below saddle; the SH has
a 2 cm longer tt and a 2 cm longer stem (59 versus 57s, 10 versus 8s) and
bars 3" higher; not to mention bars that are 46s instead of 42s and deep
drop and long reach versus short and shallow; but all feel great,
particularly with the rearward saddle bias that all encourage.
2. Handling. The two customs handle perfectly, at least as far as my
experience of bike handling goes: stable but, when you lean, they track
without over or understeer: they just follow a line with no overeagerness or
sluggishness. The SH doesn't handle as well -- it feels lighter on the front
end and you have to direct it more deliberately through corners; but it
still handles well. About as well as my 1973 Motobecane. But as I will be
using this principally for loads, that is less of an issue.
3. Quality of tubing and construction. Even the cheap SH is well built and
looks good and I am confident it will last me my lifetime.

Finally, I like Rivs because very early on Grant stuck to his design
principles, even when the market was completely opposed to it; and I believe
that he has singlehandedly caused the somewhat general revival in steel and
traditional design that others, later, picked up on.

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