Thanks, Andrew. Perhaps there's more difference between a Riv Road standard
and a LongLow than I had thought. Again, thanks for the ride post.

On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:39 AM BSWP <ashtab...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> I am guessing less than 10,000 miles on the oldest parts. I do lots of
> short rides, and a few long rides. The hubs feel smooth and solid, as does
> the Phil bottom bracket. Headset with rollers on the bottom is smooth,, no
> notchiness. The rides are very different, QuickBeam is... quick to turn,
> and less forgiving on bumps. The LongLow has round forks, not ovalized, and
> they flex more. It's a very forgiving ride, made all the more so with the
> 35mm Compass tires.
>
> - Andrew
>
> On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 7:09:04 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Kudos on the trip and the photos. Curious: how many miles on the Phil
>> hubs, and have you had to replace the bearings? I have Phils on my '99 Riv
>> Road (replaced the bearings proactively at about 14K miles because the Phil
>> bb was getting new bearings.
>>
>> How does the LongLow ride compare to that of the Quickbeam? Also, does
>> anyone know how the LL's ride compares to that of the Rambouillet?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 7:25 PM BSWP <asht...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm just back from a 215 mile loop out of Berkeley on my first
>>> Rivendell, a 65cm LongLow. We went to Point Reyes (over the RSR bridge!)
>>> then on to Tomales, where it's freezing cold at night but the saloon is
>>> hopping. Then a grunt out to Bodega Bay and second breakfast in Jenner,
>>> before meandering up the Russian River to Rio Nido for beer, and family
>>> hospitality in Heraldsburg. The rain came early, but relented enough to
>>> give us dry road into Calistoga, before hammering us the entire length of
>>> Silverado Trail, to an overpriced motel in Napa. Final day was like
>>> autopilot back through Vallejo and on down into Berkeley.
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclemoss/albums/72157712451755936
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> https://ridewithgps.com/routes/31483686
>>>
>>> The LongLow has its original Phil hubs, and six-speed freewheel,
>>> half-step + granny triple, simple Shimano 105 shifters, and nitto stem. It
>>> started with M'bars, but I've been riding on Noodles for five years now,
>>> and prefer them for long tours. The brakes are now "mini" Vees, and I very
>>> much like the Tektro interruptor levers. My luggage system is a basic Wald
>>> basket up front, with Sackville ShopSack, and a new-ish Banana bag under
>>> the saddle. For true camping, I have a stout Nitto rack and Ortliebs, this
>>> ride, I left the lightweight Nitto on, to carry beer or wine in case we
>>> needed extra capacity. Tires are now 35mm Compass something-something
>>> pass... very soft and forgiving, but still quite fast.
>>>
>>> I love the ride, so smooth and stable, and I can just pedal all day in
>>> comfort (except or my neck, it gets tired looking up, so I often go a few
>>> hundred feet looking down at the white shoulder line). There's a QuickBeam
>>> in my stable, and a new Riv-ish frame still to be painted and assembled
>>> (Rohloff meets MAFAC Racer), but I always enjoy this ride. Many thanks to
>>> Grant & crew for getting the frame sized right, and keeping me going.
>>>
>>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>>
>>> --
>>
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