Like Patrick of the Moore says, were I to intentionally set up the QB for 
loads of 30-40 lbs, I would go with a full sized rear rack, panniers to get 
the weight as low as possible, and a saddlesack on top. A light camping 
setup for all weathers can be done that way, as well as regular errand 
runs. But the Hunq or GBW handle the same and heavier loads without 
blinking.

With abandon,
Patrick of the Highlands

On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 3:57:01 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Ahhhh! Grin. Well, wrong. Grin. I have whatever the saddlesack (large) new 
> equivalent is, on the not-full sized rear rack. I just carry two Irish 
> straps in case of need. I strapped the weight on as tightly as I could atop 
> the saddlesack, that caused the saddlebag, which sticks over the end of the 
> rack, to rub the rear wheel, so I took off my belt, strapped it around the 
> seat tube to hold the saddlesack up/forward.
>
> On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 3:33:41 PM UTC-7, John Phillips wrote:
>>
>> Hi Patrick, 
>>      I'm sorry, I meant *how* do you like to carry your 30 lbs of 
>> groceries when you're riding your Quickbeam? Do you distribute the weight? 
>> Load it on a rack, in panniers, in a backpack, or? Just curious about how 
>> you end up handling that much weight on your Quickbeam?
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 2:22:13 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> You know, John, it's not something I plan to do, but everytime I've done 
>>> it, it's gone well. I'd describe it as road credit card touring worthy, but 
>>> I'd not want to do single track with that type of weight.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 3:08:09 PM UTC-7, John Phillips wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Patrick, how do you like to carry 30lbs of groceries on your Quickbeam?
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 10:35:27 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just returned from a spirited grocery run on the "wrong" bike 
>>>>> (Quickbeam), and it handled it just fine, as presumed. To the point of 
>>>>> having multiple bikes and enjoying each for what it is apart from the 
>>>>> question of which would you keep if you could only have one, it was a 
>>>>> delight to hop on the QB and feel how spritely it is, ride into a 30 mph 
>>>>> headwind at 16˚F (what's that make the windchill?), get to the grocery, 
>>>>> discover bulk orders of this and that came in, could I take them to free 
>>>>> up 
>>>>> the fridge space? A few straps and my belt later (I only carry two Irish 
>>>>> straps on the QB), and home I came with 30 lbs of groceries, having only 
>>>>> anticipated half a pound. Grin. Completely different ride than if I'd 
>>>>> taken 
>>>>> the Hunqapillar or GBW, and I still got done what ended up needing doing. 
>>>>> Grin. The more I switch between the long and short wheelbases, the easier 
>>>>> it is and the more I appreciate each for the amazing machine it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> With abandon,
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>

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