"I have been hanging bikes from the seat tube for years with no ill effects 
because:"

The risk (to me) is the seat tube decal.  If somebody moves the frame in 
the clamp, the decal can get smeared.  When you are all alone in a workshop 
that's all on you, and I'm sure you are careful.  Some of us have worked at 
bike shops and more than once, I'd clamp a bike that way and another 
coworker would squeeze past and shift the bike and wreck a customer's seat 
tube decal.  That's not my coworker's fault.  That's my fault for clamping 
over the decal.  

Just be careful.  It would be a shame to smear the decal on such a lovely 
machine.  :)

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 6:20:58 AM UTC-8, lconley wrote:
>
> The frame angles are supposed to be 72 deg seat tube and 71.5 deg head 
> tube. The top tube angle is 6 deg.
>
> Not sure how much head tube extension there is - somewhere around an inch. 
> The steerer tube is threaded and I will fill whatever gap is not taken up 
> by the brake cable hanger with spacers - probably slip an orange one in 
> there somewhere. The brake cable hanger and 29.8 seat post shown are 
> temporary. I have a Paul Funky Monkey front hanger on the way as well as a 
> 30.0 seat post. I am going to use a MT-10 100 mm 25.4 Dirt Drop stem, 225 
> mm long for the initial setup with Rene Herse 460 mm Randonneur handlebars. 
> The long stem will allow me to get the bars up where I want them without 
> getting the stem expander into the threads. I am just shy of my 64th 
> birthday, so slammed stems are a thing of the past. I have been riding drop 
> bars for about 49 years and like the variety of hand positions available. I 
> am looking forward to being able to use the dirt drop stem and not having 
> the tradition "7" shaped stem poke me in the gut when I am stopped and 
> standing over the top tube.
>
> I got a 27.2 to 30.0 seat post spacer yesterday so I can hang by a 
> 27.2 seat post now for those who worry about such things. I have been 
> hanging bikes from the seat tube for years with no ill effects because:
> 1. I don't over tighten the clamp
> 2. I keep the clamp grip surface clean
> 3. On Paramounts and Rivendells you cannot hang by the top tube due to the 
> off-center brake cable placement [note that the custom has a centered brake 
> cable (so does the Frank Jones Sr.)]
> 4. Due to my long torso and short legs, I tend to ride frames that are too 
> tall for me to get a longer top tube, thus there is not enough seat post 
> exposed to clamp.
>
> I have 20+ bikes including 10+ Rivendells and have fenders and racks and 
> triple cranks, etc. on many. I wanted the clean look of naked forks, seat 
> stays and dropouts from the racing bikes of my younger days. I describe the 
> bike as a old, fat man's racing bike. Grant would not allow me to chrome 
> the forks and stays or even the dropout faces. Fenders don't do much good 
> in Florida when it rains anyway. I have saddlebag and handle bar bags when 
> I need to carry stuff. And yes, I must confess to having plaid matching 
> Nigel Smythe bags. I even have a tiny center pull mounted rack with a ecru 
> colored Ostrich bag that matches the cream headtube fairly well. haven't 
> come up with cream colored cables yet.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
>

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