About 25 years ago, I go so many flats and hated it!  So, I just bought 
solid core tires.  No flats!  The worst ride EVER!  

Next pair of tires had a Kevlar insert in them.  Much better.  I've always 
stressed the no flat, no matter how bad the ride tires.  I'm glad to try a 
better ride, too, with tubeless.

Roberta

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 6:21:06 PM UTC-4, hobie wrote:
>
> Tannus tire inserts are great for flat free riding w. tubes. A normal 
> floor pump works,no compressor needed to go tubeless. It helps if your tire 
> and rim are TLR. One layer of rim tape. Remove valve core,seat the 
> tire,then with soapy water around both sides where the rim and tire meet 
> lather it up. Then roll the tire on the floor back and forth. Then w. valve 
> core in 12 O'clock postion attach pump and start pumping fast while 
> slightly pressing the tire and rim down. Has worked for me the past couple 
> of years. It's not that difficult. There aren't many tubeless rims on the 
> market for rim brakes. I will never go back to tubes. 
>
>
> On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 10:29:15 PM UTC-4, ted wrote:
>>
>> Someone I won't name, because he should be gratefully honored for his 
>> contributions and definitely never hectored about such trivia, wrote he 
>> could think of at least 11 steps to mounting a tube in a tire off the top 
>> of his head.
>>
>> I only think of 10.
>>    Put a layer of rim tape on the rim
>>    Put one bead of the tire on the rim down in the well
>>    Put talc on the tube or the inside surface of the tire.
>>    Put just enough air in the tube to give it some shape
>>    Put the tube inside the tire and around the rim (with the valve 
>> through the hole of course)
>>    Push the other bead of the tire onto the rim and down into the well
>>    Make sure the tube isn't stuck under a tire bead anyplace
>>    Inflate to seat the beads
>>    Make sure the beads are seated
>>    Reduce pressure to what you ride
>>
>> What am I missing?
>>
>> Now for tubeless its (assuming no difficulties/hiccups)
>>    Put n layers of tubeless rim tape on the rim
>>    Install the valve stem, pull the core 
>>    Slather soapy water al over the place
>>    Put the tire on the rim
>>    Use a compressor to blow air through the valve body to seat the tire 
>> (may spray soapy water about doing this)
>>    Put sealant in through the valve
>>    Put the valve core back in
>>    Inflate the tire (may have sealant spraying about doing this)
>>    Check that sealant isn't coming out around the bead 
>>    Spin the wheel a few times
>>    Let it sit overnight (reminds me of gluing tubulars)
>>    Re-inflate to riding pressure because it probably got soft overnight
>>
>> Now I'll agree that that doesn't sound too bad, only a dozen steps. I 
>> also agree that anyone who works on stuff, and has a shop or a garage, 
>> should get a compressor. Well worth the investment (can you say air tools, 
>> fun). But with the potential for spraying soapy water and/or sealant about, 
>> and the risk of significant difficulty seating/sealing the beads etc, I 
>> don't see how an honest appraisal can really conclude its not significantly 
>> more trouble than installing tires with tubes. Kinda like gluing tubulars. 
>> Now I can't quote anybody saying tubeless setup is trivial and as easy as 
>> using tubes, but I feel like some proponents sort of imply something close 
>> to that. Am I wrong?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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