JP:

If the Atlantis, Homer or Sam were all set-up the same as far as racks, 
bags, gear, etc., none should feel any heavier than the others.  Since 
you're in Rivendell's back yard, they can advise you on appropriate 
gearing.  They typically use wide range cassettes (e.g., 11-34 & 12-36) so 
with their "wide low double" (26 x 38?) you get a low gear that will exceed 
your 1:1 spec.  

Since they went to the long wheelbase, lots of the geometry specs have 
changed. Comparing frame sizes based on seat tube length can be deceiving.  
I have a 58 cm '03 Toyo Atlantis.  A while back I tried out a new, long 
wheelbase Atlantis at Riv.  They asked me a couple of questions, grabbed 
one out of the line-up, set the seat height & said "have fun, and let us 
know what you think".  It rode more comfortably than my bike and handled 
well on the trails.  When I returned, they told me it was a 53 cm, but due 
to the sloping top tube it fit me as well as my 58, while providing gobs 
more standover height (a desirable characteristic on trails).

You say you've bought the Atlantis.  Just build it up & enjoy it.  I think 
you'll be pleased with the ride & handling.

dougP

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 6:41:29 PM UTC-7, JP wrote:
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> (As I mentioned previously i thought i "needed" a new bike but don't.  
> However, it was too late I wanted a new bike.)
>
> I had always planned on getting a 63 MUSA Homer, but I just bought a New 
> Atlantis frame based on the following logic:
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> 1. The best bike i've ridden has been the my dads Homer 63 cm Toyo.  
> 2. I've loved my Sam but i always like how the Homer was bigger (and it 
> felt longer).  The new bikes in the running (New Homer, New Atlantis and 
> Appaloosa) are all even longer than the 63cm Homer
> 3. Shell ridge is very close to where i live and i would be interested in 
> riding there.
> 4. Even if I was going to get the New Homer, it's sold out in my size.
> 4. Will @ RBW said an Appaloosa with Homer sized tires will feel more like 
> a "Homer" than a Homer with big tires would.
> 5. Appaloosa is also sold out.
> 6. New Atlantis even longer and sturdier 
>
> I'm possibly going to cannibalize the Sam and then sell the frame, the 
> silver sidepull brakes, and possibly the crank if RBW can't help me get a 
> 1-1 ratio out the small ring.  Or sell to family member.
>
> My brother has a 62 hunq and it doesn't feel a little heavier to ride than 
> the homer, but not dramatically so.  I've read the "weight thread" and I 
> still don't feel like i know the answer and so i thought it would ask 
>
> *Is the New Atlantis going to fill "heavy" compared to a Sam or Homer?*
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> JP
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