Patrick, here you go: Mathilda, so named as it seemed like a strong Dutch 
female name for my Work Cycles Ladies Secret Service. (Digression: I bought 
the bike direct from the Netherlands. The local dealers (I lived in the Bay 
Area at the time) all wanted more money, and worse, a long wait, because 
the largest women's size was a special order. I rode one size down at a 
nice little bicycle shop at the Town & Country mall in Palo Alto, across 
from Stanford. Workcycles had the matte black in stock, the exchange rate 
was decent, and most shockingly UPS Air shipping was really affordable 
(under $200), so I wired the money. 2013 seems like forever ago.) 

I liked the Mathilda verse you sent. I was the tomgirl who got in trouble, 
but never serious enough trouble; mostly class clown, 
rules-don't-apply-to-me trouble (all girl's school so it is all relative). 
I was blessed with an education that encouraged women to be independent in 
all ways, led by thinking, so I relate to the Mathildas of the world.

Now, where was I... What I found with this bike and all the women-specific 
bikes I rode, was that they were really twitchy. The exception was my Trek 
Pilot that was a beauty of a road bike. I think it is because the geometry 
doesn't pan out as the frame gets larger. It isn't a constant increase 
across all parts (add 10% to all measurements, or somesuch). The Terry 
frame looks downright squished; it had flat handlebars. The design was to 
accommodate longer legs coupled with shorter arms; aka women's geometry. 
And I think we all know how a short, tall bike would handle. My extra-long 
femurs exaggerated the issue to absurd levels, no matter how many 
adjustments were made to components; they could never compensate for the 
shortcomings inherent in the frame design, and frequently made things 
worse. The ONE thing no one could comprehend was how just putting high, 
swept-back handlebars would fix darn near everything by allowing for the 
proper geometry for a bike to handle well and be comfortable (well, except 
Grant, of course).

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On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 12:22:16 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Kiley: I have no present interest in a Clem -- we'll see about the future 
> -- since I have 2 bike projects in the pipeline and #3 just might be a 
> mini-velo, but I have to say that I'd love to see your future Clem, hear 
> it's name, and decide if name and appearance match (photos required).
>
> Moreover, I must demand to see photos of your "massive Dutch 
> Workcycle's" Ladies bike and demand to know why you called it Mathilda, 
> which is a name hoary with reverence and not to be taken lightly. I hope 
> for your sake you did not take it lightly. Even Mat(h)ilda did not get off 
> lightly:
>
> http://holyjoe.org/poetry/belloc4.htm
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:13 AM Kiley Demond <khde...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Now that the frenetic energy behind the release of a new iPhone, er, I 
>> mean Riv, has died down a pinch, I have come to my senses and will do as I 
>> originally intended and buy a Clem L. I would be delighted to purchase a 
>> “pre-owned” one, especially if the proceeds from that sale go back to Riv 
>> to purchase a new bike. I am no longer particular about the color (although 
>> the Dutch in me that loves bikes also loves orange), but I haven’t gotten 
>> shorter (much), so I need a 59. I am also willing to purchase just the 
>> frame as my Cheviot experience got me over any fear of working on bikes 
>> despite my hemispheric reversal (think: outbound dyslexia); I just get to 
>> do most mechanical things twice! 
>>
>> And as far as a name for the Cheviot replacement, I agree with Joe that 
>> it is a silly game to play, with Leah that Platypus conveys nothing 
>> positive, and offer only the idea of playing with the goat theme (and a few 
>> options; afterall, I am a writer). In playing with my friend Google, I 
>> found this one: “Clay Henry” a famous beer-drinking goat from the Starlight 
>> Saloon. Since I love the name “Henry”, it seems perfect to me. There is 
>> also some mention of “Chamois” when inquiring about Middle Earth goats 
>> (goats are not directly mentioned), and “Khardh” does shake out as a beast 
>> remotely related to the bison, that could “move through the forest with 
>> ease”.  
>>
>> Ultimately, since I name my individual rides, the name isn’t as critical 
>> (the badge, however, is pure gold). My Cheviot was named “Heidi” (I mixed 
>> up goats and sheep), my massive Dutch Workcycle’s Ladies Secret Service was 
>> named “Mathilda”, my Terry Valkyrie was named “Angela” and so on. 
>>
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