I have to laugh. *One* flat every *300* miles? *Three hundred Miles???* *THREE
HUNDRED MILES?????!!!!*

When I first mounted original issue PRs on my then-Ram, I got a flat every *5
(five) (V)* miles, no kidding; I think it was 4 during that first ride;
yes, I was relatively inured to punctures, took in stride 1 per 20-30
miles, and carried a battery of remedies including 2 tubes and a full patch
kit; but 1:5 was a bit much even for me.

Enter, stage left, with drums and canon: *Sealant!* First Stan's, then the
better (IME) Orange Seal (Endurance for low press tubeless, full-cream for
tubes). I now ride 175-gram Elk Passes through fields of goatheads,
laughing scornfully at their feeble agression.

The Challenges are RH EL quality. I am torn between the Challenge clinchers
and real tubulars for my Libertas build; advise me, O ye wize ones.



On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 5:06:25 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Having experienced Challenge open tubulars in the form of Parigi Roubaix
I have to decry Paul's understatement of the extent of the problem.
 Literally the worst tires to mount I've ever used.   Fabulous ride, but at
best when brand new and at full thickness I got 1 flat every 300 miles, and
it went downhill from there as they wore.  To be fair, after they'd been
mounted for a couple of weeks, it became easier to get them on and off, but
the initial experience was suitable for Ripley's Believe it or Not.

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