Andrew,

I'm using a set of PDW stay ends on my VO fenders. They've held up great 
over the years. I set the screws in with loctite blue and was careful not 
to overtighten them.

I thought I wouldn't like the way they look but honestly they just 
disappear into the background.

Anton
velolumino.com

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On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 8:08:53 PM UTC-4, Andrew Turner wrote:
>
> I've used the PDW's in the past and they're pretty good, maybe a skosh 
> over-priced. My only qualm with them is the tiny little setting screws used 
> on their safety tabs to hold the stays in place. They're pretty easy to 
> strip, but if you have some spare dual-pivot calliper brakes, you can use 
> the centering adjustment screw as a replacement in a pinch. 
>
> I can't confirm this since PDW doesn't post their stay diameter but it 
> would a pretty nifty set up to just buy PDW's safety tabs and use them with 
> VO fenders... 
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 5:25:52 PM UTC-5 Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
>> The "safety" tabs on my SKS plastic fenders worked loose (eventually, 
>> often) from rough roads/trails, which caused me far greater safety concern 
>> than the sticks that never went jamming in. Though with the brittle pine 
>> around here, the sticks easily snap, so a green or hearty wood might well 
>> have jammed when these broke.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick 
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 4:13:38 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> That's useful information; thanks. But does anyone know of options for 
>>> 6.5MM stays? -- the diameter of those on my Kelpies?
>>>
>>> I know that Jan pooh poohs the danger of jamming with properly set up 
>>> metal fenders, even off road, but if I can find a workable QR option, I'd 
>>> very probably use it.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 4:07 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>> Looking into the options for metal fender break away safety, I find:
>>>>
>>>> Rene Herse comes with Honjo R Clamps. Some reports are these can break 
>>>> away? Thoughts on that?  
>>>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/fenders/honjo-r-clamp/
>>>>
>>>> Rene Herse also offers these, which are designed to break away: 
>>>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/fenders/berthoud-r-clamps/
>>>>
>>>> The only other option I find is PDWs:
>>>>
>>>> https://ridepdw.com/collections/custom-fender-fit-collection/products/full-metal-fenders-safety-tabs?variant=31598022950969
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> With abandon,
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
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