I think the main advantage of the RBW ball and socket seat lug is that it works for most any seat stay to seat tube angle, so one casting works for all sizes. Aesthetics are always in the eye of the beholder. Personally I like the looks of the new lug fine. Of course others may not. Another beneficial feature of the new lug is that the stays will trap the handle end of a frame pump nicely. On my FJ Sr. I put a topeak frame pump along the back side of the seat tube with one end on the left side chain stay and the other tucked between the seat stays at the seat lug. Nice.
On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 6:57:44 AM UTC-7, Ryan M. wrote: > > > https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/173252562647/note-this-unearthed-blug-was-supposed-to-appear > > > Here is a Blug post that has pictures of the Riv. ball and socket seat > tube lug. > > " The ball-and-socket seat stay joint eliminates sheer forces and adds > strength. The main shoreline of the seat lug is familiarly Rivendell, the > same-ish swirls and all, and like all Rivendell seat lugs, it has other > obsessive details that — well, if you’re going to make it from scratch, > might as well be there— " > > I have an Appaloosa with the older non-ball and socket lug and just picked > up a Frank Jones with the new ball and socket lug and have to say I really > dig the new style. It looks nice and has some extra "cream" windows in the > lug that the other one doesn't have. I think it is visually appealing and > if had to choose between the two I would go with the lug that the Frank > Jones has. Not that there is anything wrong with the lug on the Appaloosa, > but the Frank is just a bit fancier looking. > > On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 6:17:46 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote: > >> I like the way that Llewellyn does his socketed seat lugs, but others >> that I've seen - including the Rivendell ones - leave me cold. About 20 >> years back I was thinking of buying a Heron frame, but in the end I didn't >> because it used that design of seat lug. >> >> These is the Llewellyn seat lug (centre): >> >> >> <https://hbg.etour.bg/assets/source/500-Frameopedia-Bicycles/Framebuilders/llewellyn-mccullough/20170330_mccullough-xls-04-set.jpg> >> >> >> And how it looks in a finished frame: >> >> >> >> <https://hbg.etour.bg/assets/source/500-Frameopedia-Bicycles/Framebuilders/llewellyn-mccullough/20170330_mcullough_xlh-04-seat-built.jpg> >> >> >> Nick >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ad2c3dfa-bcca-43a4-99e9-40c1b944fda5o%40googlegroups.com.
