You can purchase Gilles Berthoud saddles from Rene Herse Cycles, the Berthoud dealer in the U.S.
The widest models most like the B17 are the Mente, the Aubisque, and the Vars. The Mente is the economy model without the torx head bolts allowing you to change leather tops. The Aubisque has steel rails, and the Vars has titanium rails, and both allow one to change the leather tops or take apart the saddle to replace parts. Rene Herse now carries the Aubisque. I ride these saddles because my sit bones are almost 13cm apart, so even if I'm stretched out, a wider saddle feels better, and I like my Albatross bars lowered to saddle height. I'm definitely not a fan of the very upright riding posture, unless I'm stretching & riding hands free. My sit bones rest a bit too close to the edge to ride comfortably on the Aspin. I would recommend getting the Aubisque, because it gives you the option to replace parts, including the leather top, if you ever need to. But first, I would recommend measuring your sit bones to make sure how wide a saddle you need. The WTB website has a sit bone "calculator", their Fit Right System, which I found very easy to use, and accurate (for me at least), which uses the width of your wrist. I would give it a whirl before you buy: https://www.wtb.com/pages/fit-right-system YMMV, John On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 10:11:45 AM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote: > > I’ve ridden Brooks forever, I had decided to try narrower than my B68 as > Oi rubs my inner thigh and is annoying. So I started reading on my old > trusty B17. Wow, so many models and opinions, now some discontinued. Then > I stumbled onto a few (many) comments and threads on Berthoud saddles. > Looking at their page I see the Mente is closest in size to the B17, the > rest are narrower. But they seem to not be available unless from an eBay > sellers who sell at a very high price. I ride upright, not 90 degrees but > closer than not. I did read some comments on the durability of the leather > which may have been caused by putting Proofide on it. Just wondering if > any members who ride upright have used the saddle and how they like it. > Not sure if this helps but my sitbones seem to ne a out 90mm apart, > +20=110mm. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/64336aa0-fc95-4143-96d6-8722b3646a39o%40googlegroups.com.
