First time using the new interface. apologies if it's weird. Ill concur that the paul racer's are definitely a step above. ive had a number of sidepulls, and they were all decent, but the pauls feel much grabbier (a good thing for center/sidepulls in my mind) and better at the lever.
I like paul stuff, but try to be realistic about actual performance benefits. ex. ive had motolites and deore level shimano v brakes on a couple bikes and the differences are minor, for me. The racer centerpull definitely felt like a worthy upgrade from tektro sidepulls when i did it. anecdotally, because the situation wasnt normal braking, the one time i almost launched myself over the bars was on a bike with Paul Racers. and i have bikes with v brakes and discs. On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 1:49:59 PM UTC-7 Paul Brodek wrote: > Reposting from ibob.... > > If you can deal with centerpull, Paul Racer Medium for the win. The > caliper itself is as light, or a tad lighter, than some of the dual-pivots, > though the extra cabling/stops likely makes it heavier overall. Still, no > beating that stopping. > > It has been a very long time since I rode with vintage centerpulls, so I > can't delve into that species. > > After centerpull, comes dual-pivot. My heirarchy for 49-59mm dual-pivot > calipers, in order of niceness/performance, is: > > 1. VO Grand Cru > 2. TRP RG957 > 3. Shimano R650 > 4. Shimano R600 > 5. Tektro R539 > > All of these, with equivalently good brake shoes, will stop better for me > than an equivalent single-pivot caliper. > > The two Shimano calipers are pretty much identical, the earlier R600 > doesn't have brake shoe toe-in washers stock. I think maybe the qr mech is > a little different? > > VO has the stiffest arms, TRP is close. Shimano not too far behind. Tektro > always seem kinda flexy and squishy to me, comparatively. And though the > Tektros definitely stop fine, they also feel cheaper overall, have a > clunkier/wonkier qr mech as well. > > To those who are sensitive to cable pull issues, you may want to explore > further which calipers work better with which levers. > > Miche also made, or maybe still makes, a longer-reach dual-pivot caliper. > I remember thinking about snagging a set some years back, just to check 'em > out, but never did. > > Paul Brodek > Hillsdale, NJ USA > > On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 12:57:10 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > >> I'm curious about alternatives to the RG Comp single pivot for the >> (single, front) brake for my 1999 Riv fixed gear. The RGC stops well and >> modulates well but has a habit of loosening, and the allen-head locknut is, >> as I discovered again yesterday, very finicky to tighten correctly -- I >> don't seem to be able to tighten firmly it against the pivot nut without >> binding the arms; IOW, I have to leave the allen locknut loose (applied >> blue Loctite, though). >> >> Therefore the question: If you were relying on a single front caliper, >> and you like old fashioned and silver, what would you install? >> >> In particular, the VO G Cru long-reaches: >> ( >> https://velo-orange.com/collections/brakes/products/grand-cru-long-reach-brakes >> ) >> >> Note: Prefer allen head, but nutted will be considered. >> >> I do like dual pivots overall for their power and ease of setup, but too >> many look klunky and bulky. The VOs aren't bad; what do you-plural think of >> them? >> >> And: If you each individually should have a nice such brake to sell, >> please do tell me. In particular, if you have a front VO G Cru in silver to >> sell, I'm interested; I don't want to buy a $170 pair if I don't have to. >> >> (And: Refresh my memory: Can I use a nutted rear in front with a longish >> allen nut? I think I can, but please confirm.) >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e47221e7-9234-4d08-8650-b865feae7284n%40googlegroups.com.
