I had similar experiences as Clark did. I went through bikes by Surly, Bianchi and SOMA trying to outfit them as Riv-like country bikes. I spent a few thousand dollars upgrading parts on each bike and never achieved the ride quality I had experienced test riding Rivs. I eventually sold all those bikes at a substantial loss and finally bought the Hillborne I should have bought initially. 8 or 9 years later, I still own (and love) my canti-Hillborne which is dialed in to my personal tastes (learned from the other bikes) Although I also bought a dedicated mtb a couple of years later, I still like throwing on my trail wheelset and taking the Hillborne out on fire trails. It is by far the most comfortable bike I’ve ever owned. I can’t see ever replacing it.
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