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All relative terms whose meanings morph and evolve and the use of which may or may not make sense to one depending on how long you've been paying attention. >From where I sit the waterford AHH and atlantis were the last of the more "traditional" Riv designs, the break being 6 deg top tubes and more limited sizing. With the longer wheelbase MIT models its another leap from "traditional". Maybe it's because I grew up before mountain bikes, but to my eye side/center pull brakes are traditional while cantilevers (not to mention V brakes) are new fangled. Discs new fangleder yet. But I think RBW would say they aren't about tradition but about practical bikes and what works. There were side pull Roms and canti-Roms, there were side pull Salukis and canti Salukis, there've been canti Sams and side pull Sams, the SOs were going to be side pull but the builder used the wrong rear brake bridge so they ended up canti. Prior to their recent embrace of V brakes (and the slow march towards ever bigger and bigger tires) RBW seemed quite agnostic wrt the whole canti vs side/center pull thing, and they went back and forth quite a bit. I'm continually amazed at how strongly many folks feel about various types of brakes. In my (admittedly somewhat limited) experience they all can work fine. That said, I find side/center pull calipers the easiest and least fidly to set up. If they (side/center pull) yield sufficient clearance I don't see a strong argument against them. I'm glad you got the bike you want, I'm also glad my wife's Sam has dual pivot brakes. On Saturday, September 5, 2020 at 5:20:59 PM UTC-7, Nathan F wrote: > > This change baffled me too, when I was buying my 2018 (in 2019, the last > one Rivelo had) it was a huge deal for me. Glad to see another run of them, > in my eyes the Hillborne is the last holdout of the more "traditional" Riv > designs that ended a few years ago. > > On Saturday, 5 September 2020 16:12:03 UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> The original Sams had cantilever brakes; why did Rivendell switch to >> calipers? It seems to me that the Sam is the sort of bike -- allroad or >> country bike -- that obviously needs cantilevers (or V brakes; heck, for >> that matter discs, if Rivendell used discs; just not calipers) for tire and >> fender clearance. >> >> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 3:37 PM Joel <jrst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The new ones are canti’s I think? Did Riv make other changes? >>> >> -- >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5d8dd48e-e091-4366-a509-8a3c7cf68cc4o%40googlegroups.com.
