Eric, That's awesome. I like how first panic set in and to mitigate that panic you started working out the numbers. I think you're going to love the Sam.
Hugh On Sat, Feb 6, 2021, 7:15 PM ericyue...@gmail.com <ericyuensut...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've found this group to be a source of tons of useful information but > haven't had much to add as I've mainly been in a sort of pre-contemplative > space about buying a Riv. I don't know what happened, but once the Sam > pre-orders got announced and I realized I wouldn't be able to get one again > for over a year some sort of panic set in and I started thinking seriously > about it. I emailed Riv early last week and asked about the cost for a > full build, got a quick reply, and then started doing some financial > plotting. Wednesday at noon came and went, but it wasn't until I was a > couple IPAs deep that evening that I finally pulled the trigger on 60 Sam. > I'm very excited for the whole process as well as all the different types > of rides it'll enable me to do. (I've historically been a "go fast" urban > rider, but I'm now splitting time between the city of San Francisco and the > Peninsula south of it, so I'm stoked to get a bike that'll be appropriate > for all the terrain I encounter and can take a load) I look forward to > contributing more as everything starts to happen. > > Eric > > On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 3:16:49 PM UTC-8 Hugh Smitham wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> Just my opinion we all know what they're like and such. I don't think the >> tenor of his original post was all that bad. I originally thought you both >> knew each other well and it was just an inside joke. My second thought was >> why point out something so trivial. I mean look what it's created all these >> back and forth emails of discontent. I kinda wanted to be mad at him for >> it. But I can't be. I can see how on the interwebs suggestions like this >> can be frustrating and seemingly demeaning, He really didn't need to go >> into the dog face name thing. TBH, the suggestion actually worked for me. I >> haven't been very active on this group for a while and the new format is >> maddening. So Mark I appreciate it the nudge. >> >> Last thoughts, (I am paraphrasing here) I remember Jim I believe a long >> time ago once saying, think long and hard before you post something, >> consider how it might come across? This is especially true when you can't >> see a person's face or hear their voice inflection. And may I respectfully >> suggest to Mark using this very sage advice from our very own moderator. >> >> This group has afforded me some of the best friends I have ever made in >> my long life. I consider it a gem. There will no doubt be those that rub me >> the wrong way as I probably do to others, perhaps this very email response >> has irritated someone (s) just know that's not my intention... >> >> Hugh >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 10:46 AM Chris Birkenmaier <cbirk...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Mark it’s really not worth my effort but my FULL NAME appears next to my >>> dog avatar. Can you not see it? I can see it and I can read your full >>> name next to your non-photo blue blob head avatar. Other than slapping my >>> knuckles on not doing a search, I’m confused why you had to do a Google >>> search to investigate who I am. I have very good manners but don’t feel as >>> though I need to have my full name on posts at the top AND then also add >>> the name Chris again at the bottom. All I can guess is whatever format >>> you are viewing doesn’t display it and you are saying I don’t have a name. >>> Please move on from being concerned about my full name and whether or not >>> I’m a man. Check around, there are a lot of female Chris’ out there. >>> Chris Birkenmaier >>> >>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 11:55:39 PM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote: >>> >>>> Chris: Re: Lovely Bicycle, occasional, but not a regular. She was a >>>> very good writer and photographer, and had some interesting takes on the >>>> world of bicycles. Now she's in Ireland with a family and a yarn knitting >>>> business. >>>> >>>> I was not suggesting that you were hiding anything, but speaking of >>>> friendly manners, if your name does not appear at the top of your post, it >>>> is good manners to sign at the bottom. As I explained, I found out who you >>>> were by...putting your email remnant into the "search" box. Going through, >>>> I found some of your posts signed "Chris" and mistakenly assumed male. >>>> (Though my odds were high for being correct based on overall members; at >>>> least those who participate.) I don't know what else I got wrong. I made no >>>> attempt to guess your dog's name!;^) >>>> >>>> Not to belabor the point, but I wrote: *May I suggest you try putting >>>> the word Charlie in ye olde search box at the top of the page. Good >>>> stuff.*" >>>> Again, I don't find "May I suggest" to be rude or unfriendly. To answer >>>> your question with any accuracy, I suspect most who wanted to respond would >>>> have to do that or something similar. For those of you who may not read >>>> the Blahg, GP has been on a self-recognized "ye olde" kick for some time, >>>> so it was a mild attempt to insert some inside humor. As was the reference >>>> to the old Nobody knows you are a dog on the internet. >>>> >>>> Rivendell has a habit of not using permalinks for their web pages. So >>>> every time they revamp or rearrange, pages get lost. It's a Riv style road >>>> bike that can take drop bars well, wider tires than Roadini, has the swoop >>>> tube found on the Susie/Gus bikes. Started out canti, now sidepull (to the >>>> dismay of some, but plenty of canti.v-brake Rivs to choose from. >>>> >>>> [image: charlie drawing.JPG][image: charlie.jpg] >>>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 9:09:52 PM UTC-5 cbirk...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Joe, thank you for coming to my defense in asking about the Charlie >>>>> model! Much appreciated! >>>>> Mark- not sure why you needed to respond in an acerbic way to my >>>>> question but you got several things wrong. Although I’m a longtime member >>>>> I am a “Christine “ therefore not a “he”. The cute dog is my Golden >>>>> Retriever, who by total coincidence is named Charlie. I go by Chris so >>>>> that is my true name and I’m not hiding behind an avatar. >>>>> We like to have discussions on this forum in a friendly manner. Were >>>>> you a frequent poster on Lovely Bicycle per chance? >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 4:28:04 PM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Not sure how you turn "May I suggest" into demanding someone do >>>>>> anything. Not sure what the amount of traffic has to do with it. In any >>>>>> case, he is a regular member. Why not teach him to fish instead of >>>>>> expecting others to rehash for him?. All the info currently out there is >>>>>> available by typing one word. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 2:22:29 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My recollection is the Charlie Gallop is a new road bike along the >>>>>>> lines of the Roadini but with a swoopy toptube like Gus/Susie. I don't >>>>>>> think this list gets enough traffic to be demanding that people use the >>>>>>> search function for a question like this, it takes just as long to say >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> as to answer the question. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/F9AGdGz3jDA/unsubscribe >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e8afc404-4d80-4947-b7b5-0cb8563aa408n%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e8afc404-4d80-4947-b7b5-0cb8563aa408n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/F9AGdGz3jDA/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b37370de-157a-42df-b5b5-a0ed5e1c70e5n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b37370de-157a-42df-b5b5-a0ed5e1c70e5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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