"On the Sam that Riv built for me the bar ends are grey and I'm running a double just fine. "
That makes sense. The gray bar-ends have enough throw you can run a double just fine (my usual application). It's just a matter of setting the limit screws. It's when you try to shift a triple with a unit designed for a double that you will run into issues. In my experience the gray will shift anything; the black will not. Mike M On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 4:38:26 PM UTC-8 zac.te...@gmail.com wrote: > @velomann (i have no idea how to quote reply on this forum) > > On the Sam that Riv built for me the bar ends are grey and I'm running a > double just fine. > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 12:05:56 PM UTC-8 velomann wrote: > >> A small note of caution regarding 9-speed DA bar-end shifters and triple >> cranks. I have 3 or 4 pairs and I learned through trial and error that >> there are sets designed for a double crank and sets designed for a triple. >> The triple has, I believe, a gray plastic collar, while the double is >> black. The left gray shifter has more throw than the black one. >> If anyone out there knows differently, please chime in. >> >> Mike M >> >> On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 10:19:02 AM UTC-8 lug...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Collin. >>> I am not sure if your questions were just rhetorical but I'll reply >>> anyway. >>> 1. the SH doesn't have to be like anything else I own (which are mostly >>> vintage steel with either 6S DT shifting or 8S STI "Click" shifting) but I >>> do generally prefer drop bars for all kinds of riding - city, country, >>> paved, gravel.... >>> I have several Bike Friday folding bikes for instance and while many BF >>> owners have and prefer flat or "H" style bars, I always seem to want drops. >>> though I only ever ride on the top flats and upper corners (75%) or (25% on >>> the brake hoods) >>> 2. Rrides will be day trips 2h+ on country roads, many paved, some >>> packed gravel. (Though we have converted rail trails around here too. too >>> rough for my skinny tired bikes. ) Usually unloaded, just for exercise. >>> Never fully loaded I don't think. Maybe local utility rides with a rear >>> pannier or a big Carradice saddle bag. >>> 3. Must Have Items? not really. I am not very fussy about my builds. I >>> usually take 'em as I get 'em and just jump on and ride (i usually don't >>> even swap out a stem unless it is WAY off my size.) >>> >>> I think I am leaning 9S barend shifters. surprisingly I don't have any >>> but I have a line on a pair. I've tried barends on a Bike Friday once and >>> while many would write them off as low end, I remember finding that build >>> elegantly simple. And I ride a lot of DT shifter builds and so not being on >>> the bars all the time does not fuss me. >>> >>> I have a Triple Biopace crankset I might slap on here. TBD. >>> Then I have a LC Deore RD, a variety of Clamp FDs. (I might be narrowing >>> things down.) >>> >>> WHEELS: One item I don't have and am unfamiliar with are fat tires and >>> wheels with the wider rims (I assume) that would take 38-50mm tires. I have >>> dozens of wheels sets but will with fairly narrow traditional road rims for >>> 23 to 28mm max tires. So there I will have to do some research. >>> Similarly I am unfamiliar with 650 wheels and tires. Will a SH take 650 >>> wheels? >>> >>> (I'm sorry to sound so dense about the details of Rivendell bikes. I >>> know the Rivendell name by reputation of course but I've never had one or >>> pursued one. This frame though kind of just fell into my lap. at first >>> glane, when I measured it up as a "59cm" ctc, I wrote it off as too small >>> for me. Only once I put it on wheels did I realise that the TT was sloping >>> and so this was actually the largest SH frame they made and measured about >>> a 65cm Eff ST. and so was my size and so I should try to build it up.) >>> >>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 10:29:16 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote: >>> >>>> You ask how to build up a bike, and as others have mentioned there are >>>> many "good" ways to build up a bike and I'd argue there are almost no >>>> "bad" >>>> ways to build a bike, as long as it works (exaggerating a bit, but you get >>>> my point)! You have loads of parts, so really it seems like you could >>>> build >>>> up just about anything. >>>> >>>> A few questions to get your mental gears turning: >>>> 1. Do you want it to be like your other bikes or something different >>>> (to take advantage of building from the ground up)? >>>> 2. Whats the typical ride going to be for the bike? Fully loaded on >>>> rough trails, smooth pavement and a days worth of food, or somewhere in >>>> between? >>>> 3. Are there any items you MUST include? I ask because sometimes you >>>> have a really nice pair of _____ that you want to use (and you seem to >>>> have >>>> TONS of parts...). >>>> >>>> Personally, I recently converted my Joe to a dirt-drop bar slick 650x50 >>>> bike and LOVE it. 2x9 with friction bar ends are quite fun, but can't say >>>> they are any better than my 2x11 STI on my 700x38 gravel bike, or the 1x11 >>>> flat bar setup that was on it before. They are all fun and all worth >>>> trying >>>> in my opinion. >>>> >>>> Good luck! >>>> Collin in Sacramento >>>> >>>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 11:25:22 AM UTC-8 lug...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have acquired a Sam Hillborne frame. >>>>> Maybe it's been the long winter. I don't know what. >>>>> But I am stumped as to how to build it up. (I am ashamed now to >>>>> realize that while I have owned dozens of bikes, almost all have been >>>>> completes. I have rarely built one up from a bare frame.) >>>>> Worse (or maybe Better) I have a big collection of spare parts to >>>>> choose from everything from 6S downtube to 9S speed click shifting, >>>>> Campagnolo and Shimano. I have about 35-50 of each bit - BB, FD, RD, >>>>> shifters, cranks.... >>>>> >>>>> Some advice could be helpful. >>>>> I'll post my spreadsheet here in case anyone wants to look (BTW >>>>> everything is for sale too. but that's not the point of this post, >>>>> really. >>>>> It's more that people can only guide me if they know what my choices are) >>>>> >>>>> https://tinyurl.com/2vhm38sn >>>>> >>>>> Barend shifters or handlebar mounter STI/Ergo "Click" shifters? >>>>> Compact double or a Triple crankset.? (my riding will be mostly paved >>>>> country roads, maybe some packed gravel, not overly hilly.) >>>>> Drop bars (I have TONS of drop bars) or moustache bars (I don't have >>>>> any really)? I generally prefer drop bars for all riding situations. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, rather than wandering aimlessly around in the garage randomly >>>>> plucking parts from my bins, I'm all ears for a more coherent approach. >>>>> >>>>> Peter Stock >>>>> Toronto Canada >>>>> >>>>> [image: 59X59 Rivendell Sam Hillborne FULL.JPG] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c8a4a407-c5b4-4121-89c5-be9e404a63fbn%40googlegroups.com.
