Thank you Marc and Tom for your responses. The feedback is helpful.
Linda

On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 6:21:08 AM UTC-8 Marc Irwin wrote:

> I find the Buena Vista very firm.  The previous version I built had a VO 
> front rack and rear with Wald folding baskets.  I could carry $200 in 
> groceries and the frame was still very firm.  The front rack did wobble a 
> little under heavy load.
>
> Marc
>
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 3:16:25 AM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:
>
>> My question was directed to Tom or Marc about the Soma Buena Vista. I do 
>> not believe the Platypus would be flexy because it has a different top tube 
>> design. Same with the Handsome She-Devil. I'm looking for everything I want 
>> in one bike and it is very difficult to find! That's to be expected.
>> Linda
>>
>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 12:01:10 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I had a 55cm Cheviot and it was one of the stiffest bikes I've ever 
>>> owned, I think the mid-stays in the rear triangle contributed to this..I 
>>> would be very surprised if the new Platypus (updated Cheviot) is flexy. 
>>>
>>> Also I recommend comparing the sizing of your V-O to the 50cm Platy, 
>>> it's going to be the shorter Platypus in the line and uses 650B wheels. 
>>> I'll bet - with Riv's penchant for long front-centers - that you'll fit it. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 5:17:57 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does this bike feel flexy with a load in front and back, set fairly 
>>>> high on your racks? I ask because I have a Velo Orange mixte, size 54, 
>>>> which has a similar design and rack configuration. The flex bothers me. 
>>>> It's kind of an unstable feeling side to side. It's also enough to make 
>>>> the 
>>>> rear brake rub on a rough road. I'm looking for an alternative and the 
>>>> Platypus is too long and big-tired for me. I like the fact that the Soma 
>>>> can run 650 b's.
>>>> Linda
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:18:25 AM UTC-8 Tom Palmer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> This is a cross post for IBob, with correction, now with Riv content.
>>>>> I built this Soma Buena Vista up over the winter and finally rode it. 
>>>>> Probably the best first ride on a new bike ever, maybe I am finally 
>>>>> understanding how to fit my own bikes. undoubtedly, things will change, 
>>>>> but 
>>>>> its pretty close right now. The build is pretty Bobish- 650b with 38mm 
>>>>> Pari 
>>>>> motos (red Hetres on the way as change #1) Shimano Deore rear hub Shimano 
>>>>> dyno front on velocity Dyad rims. Tektro r559 brakes that stop very well. 
>>>>> Riv Nitto Choco norm bars on long generic stem. SKS longboard fenders at 
>>>>> least for now. Front basket and rear rack for commuting if that is ever a 
>>>>> thing in the future. Drivtrain is 10 speed microshift shifters and 
>>>>> Shimano 
>>>>> SLX deraillers. and  a vintage Shimano 600 crankset with Willow triplizer 
>>>>> 46/30 chainrings. Rides great- tweaked the bars a few times after about 5 
>>>>> miles into the ride. Hit  a couple steep hills and climbs well in the 
>>>>> bends 
>>>>> of the Chocos. The interweb info on this for tire fit is way 
>>>>> conservative. 
>>>>> I had 650bx48 Pari motos on at first and they fit fine, probably fenders 
>>>>> too. The handling is typical high trail drop road bike even with the 
>>>>> swept 
>>>>> back bars. This is a little surprising. I was afraid it would be too 
>>>>> light 
>>>>> but the longer chainstays may play into it- 450mm. Geometry is pretty 
>>>>> road 
>>>>> bike too- 73 degree parallel with 45mm rake. This is the biggest frame 
>>>>> they 
>>>>> still make-58cm. They did have a 62 in the past. The color is tremendous- 
>>>>> even better than anything on the web. Russo Red is what they call it and 
>>>>> it 
>>>>> really pops. Real paint, not powder coat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doing a tour of lakes Huron, Superior, and Michigan in the fall, and 
>>>>> this may be the ride.
>>>>>
>>>>>

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