I agree with Garth's analogy on hubs.

I tend to steer away from Shimano hubs, they are not bad, but I've had
much better luck with Phil's.

The new Shimano freewheels...I'm happy to see those.

Angus

On Apr 24, 8:19 am, Garth <garth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  I'd go with a Phil FW or cassette hub any and every day over a
> Shimano.  My reason is a Phil hub is completely rebuildable and user
> serviceable. Shimano bearing races are not replaceable, and here we
> are in 2010 and we're still servicing cups and cones in hubs?  I was
> burned once by a Shimano hub prematurely failing in the 90's, and it
> woke me up. No more cheap hubs. Only cartridge bearing hubs for
> me ...... with the exception of vintage Campy SR hubs.
>
> Yeah, Shimano hubs are inexpensive , and that's why people choose
> them . I can't blame them. Shimano has flooded the market with cheap
> hubs to make it nearly irresistible to not choose them. But .... it's
> a little like junk food .  Cheap and plentiful. It may come back to
> haunt you.
>
> 7sp FW's are available from IRD, Shimano and Sunrace.
>
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