Phil,

I have P45s paired with 650b 38mm Gravel Kings
on my Hillborne. Works fine but of course 
P50s would give more margin. 

Best,
Rich in ATL

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Roberta <rchas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Fenders are practical!  What width tires?  
> 
> This is from Riv’s website. I hope this helps. It doesn’t specifically say 
> “chromoplast.”
> For 700c tires skinner than 28mm: P35
> 
> For 700c tires 28mm to 38mm: P45 Longboards if you ride up to a 700x38 size.
> 
> For 650b or 700c tires up to 45mm: P50 
> 
> For 26" tires up to 2" :  P55.
> 
> For any 700c, 650b, or 26-inch tires up to 2.35" (65mm):  B65
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:09:31 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Any ideas what SKS Chromoplastic fender set will fit the 650b models? I have 
>> a P45 I need to return to Amazon.
>>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 12:31:01 PM UTC-5 David Person wrote:
>>> Perhaps the paint will have fluorescence properties.  This from the latest 
>>> issue of National Wildlife Magazine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 9:23:15 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>> I hear ya, Kate, I was all about that shocking LimeOlive when I first saw 
>>>> it but I suspect it wouldn't age well with me. If I got this frame it 
>>>> would be Mermaid. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 6:08:54 AM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> Oh my.... my head was filled with Platy dreams all night!!!  I can't 
>>>>> wait.  I put it out of my head and forced myself not to think about it 
>>>>> until next month but whaaaaat?????  Here they are.  So close!!!  
>>>>> I originally attached myself to the 50 lime/olive but that mermaid is 
>>>>> calling me like a siren in the distance.  Hmmmmm, I shall sleep again 
>>>>> tonight and see who calls. 
>>>>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:42:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>> Haha, I knew you would catch the spelling. And you're right, I DON'T 
>>>>>> STAND A CHANCE! 😂
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Joe "hmm, maybe a 2-speed project to see how light a Platy can get would 
>>>>>> be fun 🤔" Bernard
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:31:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; you 
>>>>>>> will love the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you don’t 
>>>>>>> stand a chance.
>>>>>>> Leah
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never seen 
>>>>>>>> in the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - frames 
>>>>>>>> are a month early! 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what Leah 
>>>>>>>> Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the new 
>>>>>>>> catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 🙂
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a 
>>>>>>>> new bike" Bernard
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
>>>>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see 
>>>>>>>>>>> that size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely 
>>>>>>>>>>> proportioned as the smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot 
>>>>>>>>>>> looked so gangly and awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted 
>>>>>>>>>>>> there: The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the R90 Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the bike will ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make 
>>>>>>>>>>>> an 11-34  capable MTB rear derailleur. Microshift is another 
>>>>>>>>>>>> source of nice parts for less money than the big name parts 
>>>>>>>>>>>> makers. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> same size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think) are off in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and they were not the final design. So, the container must have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrived and that means Platypuses will be dotting the American 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countryside in the next few weeks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space and gets more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> color. So far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bunch <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Creek?!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ding Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rayvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leah,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors. I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a piece of art!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ding Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This bike and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without smiling. Ever. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o’ new Platys for us to admire!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leah,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front derailer is on there? Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Witness Protection Program now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM Joe Bernard 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That bike with all its glorious teal and rose and Brooks 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and bags is - and there is no higher compliment from me 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - CRAZY. As the kids would say, it's ridiculous! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent work all around from Leah the parts/paint 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picker, Analog Cycles for the parts/ano, and the pro 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shop that put it all together. And Grant/Riv for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike! 👏👏👏🏆🏆🏆
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe "I have a custom and I'm still jealous of Leah's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike" Bernard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 7:53:12 PM UTC-8 Bicycle 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (This message should have preceded my photos, but it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was too large and was not sent. Since the file is too 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large, you can see it on Instagram or the Facebook 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> groups if you like.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, while we wait for the ship to be unloaded 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (MONDAY! 🥳), I made a video of my Platy because...IT’S 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FINALLY COMPLETE. I was waiting on a bunch of rose 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anodized parts and a Randi Jo bag in custom colors and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all of those things arrived on Thursday and I whisked 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whole getup to the bike shop for assembly. Here’s a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video that may not show up. So after that, I’ll send 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:08 PM, Joe Bernard 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "For what's it worth I had a dream last night that I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went to Rivendell and the Platypus frames all showed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up defective.  They tried to sell me a fat-tired 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folding E-bike.  Terrifying stuff."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The way this would work in real like (cuz I'm the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebike liker around here) is I would be in the parking 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot selling that e-folder out of my trunk and Grant 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be chasing me off the premises 🤣
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:15:03 AM UTC-8 Tom 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wyland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike M:  Just turn on closed captions for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English-ish translation. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For what's it worth I had a dream last night that I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went to Rivendell and the Platypus frames all showed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up defective.  They tried to sell me a fat-tired 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folding E-bike.  Terrifying stuff. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 12:23:18 PM UTC-5 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> velomann wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bluelug just posted a Platypus build video.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wish I understood Japanese!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga8o1WKWgXs&t=537s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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