My plan for retirement is an AWD Chrysler Pacifica. The middle and rear 
seats all fold into the floor - so it is the equivalent of a cargo van with 
the just the two front seats if needed. Or the number of needed seats can 
be raised from the floor. kind of a larger version of the Element.

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Laing
Delray Beach FL

On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 12:54:57 PM UTC-4 Jeffrey Arita wrote:

> Since 2016 (except for 2020 of course) my wife and I have rented minivans 
> to transport our rigs to faraway places.  Minivans, in my opinion, are a 
> fantastic invention.  Lots of room!  Once we get to that location, we drop 
> the vehicle off and start the adventure.  We tend to do this if the start 
> point is > 500 miles away.
>
> Around 2016 we learned about Rok Straps and how useful they are on a 
> bicycle equipped with a rack.  For us, they have since become a *standard* 
> part of the entire rig.  We have used them to secure additional water 
> bladders, bottles, drybags and even firewood to a rear rack.  While 
> transporting the bicycles with a minivan, another use for the Rok Straps is 
> to secure them to the minivan's many anchor points.  They work quite well 
> securing the bikes inside a moving vehicle (especially while making 
> turns).  I realize you have a sidestand, but it certainly would help secure 
> your Platy from potential beausage.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Jeff & Lori 
> Claremont, CA 
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 8:29:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok, here’s the compromise. If this bike is inside the locked van, good 
>> enough for me! Can you believe this long bike fit?! Everyone, quick, go buy 
>> a Honda Odyssey!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 7:17 AM, Melanie <myo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If anything untoward happens on vacation, wouldn't you rather it happen 
>> to the Clem? Let the Clem be your beausage bike and let the Platy be your 
>> precious.
>>
>>
>> Have a relaxed vacation!
>>
>> Melanie (who is about to go on vacation, sadly sans any Riv at all)
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 2:08:31 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Every summer I leave for five weeks or so. I drive across the country to 
>>> our home states and spend that time with our families. Our kids get out of 
>>> the desert and get to have lake life and grandma time and run wild. I have 
>>> a Saris Freedom 4 bike rack, and I can/might take my Clem, my Platypus and 
>>> the boys’ Clems. We get a lot of riding done up North, and with temps 110 
>>> in Vegas in the summer, I relish that riding time. Hassle though it is, 
>>> I’ll bring our Rivendells. Four of them. 🙄
>>>
>>> But which ones? 
>>>
>>> I can remember last year as we journeyed out of Yellowstone, we thought 
>>> it would be great to take the Beartooth Highway out of the park. One moment 
>>> we were enjoying views from the top of the world and the next, we were in a 
>>> June snowstorm that barely allowed visibility 20 feet in front of us. I 
>>> worried for my dyno hub, and also that we’d be rear-ended. When we got to 
>>> Billings, those poor bikes suffered through the most torrential downpour I 
>>> can ever remember driving through. My son’s Brooks B17 Select still bears 
>>> the scars (yes, it had a Randi Jo saddle cover). And then there’s the theft 
>>> risk (we u lock them to the rack overnight on our drive), and maybe it’s 
>>> higher in the Bicycle Shortage of 2020 and 2021. Oh, and the risk of being 
>>> knocked over by exuberant little nieces and nephews as we jam our bikes 
>>> into family garages…
>>>
>>> The struggle is this. I don’t want to leave my most favorite bike ever 
>>> behind for 5 weeks. The Clem is just not the same, and though I plan to 
>>> bring it, I would really, REALLY miss my Platy if I ONLY took the Clem. But 
>>> if tragedy should befall me, the raspberry Platy can’t exactly be replaced. 
>>> There’s only one. 
>>>
>>> Should I just take my chances because high risk, high reward? Suck every 
>>> last drop of joy out of it and stop worrying, because after all, it is a 
>>> bike, and it’s meant to be ridden? Or should I protect it, keep it safe 
>>> like Gollum and his Precious? Just ride the Clem and pine for the Platy? I 
>>> have hand-wrung about this for weeks. I decide, IT WILL BE FINE JUST BRING 
>>> IT and then back to JUST THINK OF HOW YOU WILL REGRET IT IF YOUR PLATY GETS 
>>> HURT OR STOLEN. We leave Friday and the pressure is mounting.
>>>
>>> Who has an irreplaceable bike and can relate and would offer an opinion?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Leah
>>>
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