As others mentioned, get both.

Currently I have a Ritchey Outback that is setup very sportily (narrow 
drops, 40mm tires, 450mm chainstays) and a Joe Appaloosa that is slowly 
becoming more bikepacking-friendly and trail oriented (wide drops, 50mm 
knobby  tires, dynamo) after serving time as my road rambler (I still like 
wide drops over uprights, or I should say my 30 yr old body is OK with it 
for now).

My only point to add is that its a lot easier to run a smaller tire on a 
frame with big clearances than a bigger tire on a frame with tighter 
clearances, especially when the BB drop is the same. If you want to 
experiment in more dirt road/off road riding, the Joe would be your ticket.

Collin, cooler than PDX, in Sacramento

On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 2:30:58 PM UTC-7 Damien wrote:

> So here's the situation. I've got a super hot lead on an orange 51 
> Appaloosa, but I'm already deep in it with a sage 51 canti Sam. Initially, 
> when I was looking at these bikes, I was torn between the two. I ultimately 
> leaned Sam because at the time I liked the colour and it was more 
> available. Well, things change I guess! I'm more seriously entertaining a 
> move to the Appaloosa because:
>
>    - Sweet long chainstays
>    - Can carry more (?? Is this true??)
>    - Will likely work better for me with upright bars (Sam felt too 
>    cramped for me with Albas)
>    - Better tire clearance for fattish knubblies or fatter tires + 
>    fenderage
>
> What I would love to do here is tap the forum's collective wisdom to see 
> if the grass is really greener. Has anyone made the move from Sam to 
> Appaloosa, or vice versa? What were your feelings? What did you miss on the 
> old bike when you made the move? What did you love about the new bike that 
> the old bike couldn't live up to?
>
> I'm approaching this a bit more cautiously since I already regret selling 
> another Riv I owned (Roadini - my regret is well documented, I believe). 
> That said, I imagine I'll need to act fast to get the bike before someone 
> snags it. In a perfect world I'd keep both, but we all know the world isn't 
> perfect, and I do have to live within the very real constraints imposed 
> upon me by my lovely partner who for some reason isn't cool with me having 
> umpteen bikes.
>
> Anyways, enough of my incessant rambling. Thank you for reading and 
> helping to encourage my hobby of buying bikes then selling then replacing 
> then modifying then selling then replacing then buying then crying then 
> selling then complaining then... (and so on and so forth). 
>

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