Looks like 55cm square to me. Does anybody have the original geometry chart handy to confirm this was an AR size? This looks like the shorter-TT version for drops or Moustache. This is SUCH a nice bike!
Joe Bernard On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 2:15:24 PM UTC-7 Justin wrote: > [image: 51366308669_90078e2939_c[1].jpg] > [image: 51365794758_0ea8d624f1_c[1].jpg] > [image: 51366307704_37a753be4e_c[1].jpg] > > On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 11:58:16 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: > >> The TT measurement from the Cyclefiend site does not match what a 59 >> should be. I would need to see a real ST measurement to say for sure. Not a >> measurement with teh saddle included. >> >> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote: >> >>> Frame size should be easy to measure - center of crank to top of seat >>> lug. Based on "Crank bolt to top of saddle - 30"." and what appears to be >>> 6-1/4" [(36-1/8) - (29-7/8] from top of seat lug to top of saddle -> 30" - >>> 6-1/4" = 23-3/4" = 60.3 cm. >>> >>> Or another estimate >>> top of pedal to center of crank bolt for 175 mm crank - 175 - (15/2) = >>> 167.5mm = 6.6" >>> 36-1/8" - 6-1/4" - 6.6" = 23.3" = 59.1 >>> >>> I would say the frame is a 59 based upon the Cyclofiend chart and that >>> it has 26" wheels. >>> Note that 56cm = 22", if the bike were a 56, it would measure 22" from >>> the center of the crank bolt to the top of the seat lug >>> >>> Note that your height is not what matters, it is your PBH. I am 6' but >>> have short legs and thus a short PBH - I need bikes with the TT several >>> inches longer than the ST. >>> >>> If you really like the bike, why not just get a longer seatpost and >>> stem, Nitto makes 300mm seatposts (Riv only lists 250mm versions) and >>> taller stems also. Nitto even makes a 300mm tall lugged setback seatpost. I >>> would guess that it is easier to find the long seatpost and stem than a >>> larger frame. >>> >>> Laing >>> Delray Beach FL >>> >>> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 8:22:45 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: >>> >>>> Based on that TT measurement it looks like it probably is a 55. >>>> >>>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/gen1/rivcat05_framespecs.jpg >>>> >>>> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 11:34:41 PM UTC-4 Justin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ok, I've received a ton of emails. I'll try to answer the bike >>>>> specific questions real quick with some photos which should cover all the >>>>> requests. I didn't figure there'd be so much interest and I apologize for >>>>> the grief for not have an answer to the "how much?" emails. Since I was >>>>> hoping to trade I truly don't have a price in mind to sell. I think the >>>>> first 4 emails arrived simultaneously so I'm not even sure who to fairly >>>>> give the first shot without there being an offer on deck. >>>>> >>>>> The bike is currently on 26" wheels and 2.1" tires, tubed. >>>>> >>>>> The bike weighs 23.6 lbs in the photo. >>>>> >>>>> Top tube length (C-C) - 22", and (because c-c is too hard to measure >>>>> and photograph by myself) the seat tube to head tube - 21" as pictured >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [image: 51354336564_2a81af25b7_z[1].jpg] >>>>> [image: 51353595911_9319bb4531_z[1].jpg] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Crank bolt to top of saddle - 30". >>>>> I'm not sure how that measurement is helpful so I also included top of >>>>> pedal to top of saddle - 36" / 175mm crank length. >>>>> Saddle height from ground is 39 1/4". Note that the seat post in the >>>>> picture is a Nitto S83, not the Jaguar NJ-SP72 because is was too short >>>>> to >>>>> reach my new saddle height. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [image: 51353596581_50323d1ef0_z[1].jpg] >>>>> [image: 51353823913_71cca6a517_z[1].jpg] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 1:27:10 PM UTC-4 Dave S wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> PM'ed about a too big for me 59cm XO-1 hanging in my garage. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 9:49:02 PM UTC-4 Justin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I know it's a really long shot but by all means y'all feel free to >>>>>>> let me know about it! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've recently come to understand that my recurring knee pain is a >>>>>>> result of always riding my saddle a bit too low, and raising the saddle >>>>>>> meant raising the stem/bars as well to keep things level. Now the size >>>>>>> 56 >>>>>>> feels just too small sadly. I'm 6'1" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The All Rounder is probably my favorite bike I've ever owned even >>>>>>> though it's a size too small for me, and I'd really love to have >>>>>>> another in >>>>>>> a size that fits. As I understand it, the 58 All Rounder was the last >>>>>>> size >>>>>>> to keep 26" wheels so a size 60 with 700cc wheels is not really what >>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>> looking for even though it would fit. Also should point out that I am >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> looking for a modern Rivendell with long chainstays and double toptube, >>>>>>> been there done that and it's not for me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Frame/fork or full bike with comparable parts. Really only "want" to >>>>>>> trade but... If someone is determined to buy it I guess they'll let me >>>>>>> know. Bonus points if someone happens to know of a dormant size 58 not >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> their own but can facilitate it's purchase in exchange for the >>>>>>> acquisition >>>>>>> of my 56! *Point is I'm hesitant to let the bike go without a bike >>>>>>> to put in it's place during this pandemic bike shortage.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Something of similar strengths but disc brake could pull me away >>>>>>> from it as well, Crust, Singular Peregrine, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Phil Wood/Sun CR18 front wheel >>>>>>> Bullseye (made in USA) rear >>>>>>> Paul Neo Retro/Touring canti brakes >>>>>>> Nitto Jaguar NJ-SP72 seat post >>>>>>> Nitto Pearl stem, Mustache bars >>>>>>> Suntour Superbe brake levers >>>>>>> Suntour Cyclone/Deaore derailleurs and shifters >>>>>>> Ritchey cranks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 32" standover at bottom bracket >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's in really great shape, if a bit dirty. More pics if there's >>>>>>> interest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: 51351999495_e41cfd8f29_b[1].jpg] >>>>>>> [image: 51352077389_867b9084f7_c[1].jpg] >>>>>>> [image: 51351563428_9c63cda23d_c[1].jpg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6cb3dfbf-0df9-4820-9731-e7f1cae6d6f5n%40googlegroups.com.