Birkenstocks have been my go-to for summer riding. I have the suede 
versions that are probably better than the thicker leather ones.
I'd like to keep this going as long as I can so I'll need to get the wool 
socks out soonish.

On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 1:00:04 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> These Target shoes are pretty wide and big for the marked size; again, 10 
> fits looser on my medium width foot than an 11 in the mountain bike shoes, 
> both tried with winter socks. And, $19.99.
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 9:18 PM Mike Packard <mrg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I like the simple canvas sneakers too, but usually find them too narrow. 
>> I recently learned that some Converse and Vans now come in wide; I got the 
>> Converse and they make nice riding shoes. (Closer to $60 but still cheaper 
>> than 510s).
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 12:31:34 PM UTC-5 Benjamin Kelley wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Looked on their site,  they appear to be the Men's Park Sneakers by 
>>> Goodfellow & Co.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:27 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Target, my good man. Always Target.
>>>>
>>>> Patrick "Target never lets you down" Moore, who has no more details to 
>>>> give, alas. They were hanging on hooks, looked like what I want, and after 
>>>> trying them on, I paid for them.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:25 AM Benjamin L. Kelley <
>>>> benjami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Details on these shoes?   They sort of look like the Chrome Truk 
>>>>> sneaker, but less aggressive on the side sole and thicker around the 
>>>>> ankles.
>>>>>
>>>>> --ben
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:08 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I spent over $200 on shoes (Five Ten, $150) and pedals ($50+, 
>>>>>> recommended by experts) for "no retention" pedaling, and hated both 
>>>>>> pedals 
>>>>>> and shoes, so I did the usual and sold them -- as always -- at a loss 
>>>>>> with 
>>>>>> ~50 miles on them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I went back to the ol' reliable MKS Esprit pedal, 
>>>>>> semi-platform/semi-rat trap, with XL/X Deep MKS clips, and for the shoes 
>>>>>> I 
>>>>>> just paid $19.99 + tax for these hi-tek babies. Somewhat like my 
>>>>>> general-wear boat shoes but with lace-up vamps to keep the dirt out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These will slide into and out of the straps very easily, be very 
>>>>>> sufficiently supported by the large pedal body and retained sufficiently 
>>>>>> by 
>>>>>> the serrations, be easy to walk in, and look minimally decent (dust 
>>>>>> colored, too).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Live 'n' learn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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