I've been saying...we're the next big thing!

Just like "gravel" - first the boutique custom brands, then the mid levels 
& finally the Treks, Giant & Specialized of this world. Standby for Trek 
ads extolling the beauty of lugged steel.

On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 5:32:47 AM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks Abe,
>
> The Kona Coco looks like a good option, I like the 47mm tyres which are a 
> good size for gravel riding. There are a few Kona dealers near me too.
>
> Your Nishiki would be eaxctly what I'd do if I could find one! Perfect 
> colour and lugged frame and fork too. I've never seen one of the 
> three-pulley suntour derailleurs, except on the Disraeili gears site. Does 
> it work in practice?
>
> Like I say, higher end step through MTBs like your Nishiki are near 
> impossible to find here. Koga-Miyata did a couple of nice models, the 
> Heartbreaker and Terrarunner I think, but I've not seen one for sale 
> lately. I'll keep looking though.
>
> I think the Larkspur would cover most of what we want from a bike so if I 
> got one of those I wouldn't need to do a resto project, even though that's 
> always fun :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 at 21:16, Pancake <abe.g...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been looking at the Larkspur as a possible ride for my wife for the 
>> same reasons (and because it comes in a small enough size for her): wide 
>> 650b tire clearance, steel, step-through, 1x11 with 38t chainring by 11-51t 
>> cassette (or 1x10 on the Larkspur 1 with the same 38x11-51t), even comes 
>> with nice enough tires. Could take or leave disc brakes but the Shimano 
>> deore hydraulics are good (the Larkspur 1 with Tektro low end hydraulics 
>> are ... fine, not great).  These have been hard to find in stock (and 
>> impossible to find used, likely a good sign). Unfortunately, between 2020 
>> and 2022 the price has jumped substantially (the Larkspur 2 was $929 back 
>> then, $1,199 now without changes to justify the cost increase, appears to 
>> be related to supply and demand). That took it from a great value to a good 
>> value in my book. 
>>
>> We ended up getting a Kona Coco which is similar to the Larkspur 1 but in 
>> aluminum (and significantly lower price, used [very little from what I can 
>> tell] on craigslist for $500). When our kiddos are a little older and we 
>> can go on longer rides together *then *I'll be looking for a used Clem L 
>> or Larkspur. In the mean time the wide tires and lower pressure are making 
>> up the difference for a comfy ride. 
>>
>> That said, I like your 'find a used mixte and build it up as a poor 
>> person's riv' idea ... perhaps mostly because I'm currently in that same 
>> project with a Nishiki Bel Air ;-) This will be for my dad who, after 80 
>> years, prefers a lower step through/over. 
>> *Notice that THREE pulley rear derailer!* 
>> [image: IMG_7421.jpg]
>> *Notice that THREE pulley rear derailer 
>> <https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site/suntour_xc_derailleur_3_pulley_system.html>!*
>>  Sugino 
>> VP triple crank, clearance for *maybe *2" wide 26" tires, MKS pedals, a 
>> nice setback seatpost hidden by being lowered all the way here, color 
>> matched stem, power ratchet Suntour friction shifters (not exactly but 
>> similar to the Silver shifter precursor), and nice Dia Compe brakes/levers. 
>> Steel and lugs and such. Happy with this find that seems to have spent 20 
>> years resting in a basement. Already cleaned everything and removed some 
>> rust pitting, new cables/housing, trued the wheels (tension meter at 22 on 
>> the front, rear is 25 drive side and 17 non-drive side), a lubed/greased 
>> parts as I find them. Stem's original red grease was still in great 
>> condition, brake pads were barely worn so I think it's got very few miles 
>> ... so far.
>>
>> Good luck on your search, the Larkspur will be great but the used 
>> restomod is another fun option ... do both!
>>
>> Abe
>>
>> On Monday, 23 August 2021 at 05:08:00 UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> stell frame, lots of clearance and 650B wheels seems like a nice setup. 
>>> I never rode one but my guess is that it could be a great bike if your wife 
>>> is comfortable on it. The 1x setup is pretty good with a wide range of 
>>> gears and they are using a sunrace cassette which have better gearing than 
>>> Shimano does.
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 8:01:15 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> My LBS has a Marin Larkspur 2 in stock. When I saw it in the shop, my 
>>>> first thought 
>>>> was that it's a knock-off of the Clem-L or Platypus. 
>>>>
>>>> https://www.marinbikes.com/bikes/family/larkspur
>>>>
>>>> I'm interested in this bike because my wife has expressed an interest 
>>>> in gravel riding/easy mountain biking, and this looks like a relatively 
>>>> accessible way to get into it. A Rivendell isn't really feasible due to us 
>>>> being in Belgium, the way Rivs sell out within minutes of going online, 
>>>> etc. etc. 
>>>>
>>>> There's a short review of the Larkspur on Path Less Pedalled, seems 
>>>> quite positive and gives the impression that it's quite well suited for 
>>>> what my wife wants her bikes to do - utility with a bit of off road at the 
>>>> weekends.
>>>>
>>>> My other idea was to find an old mixte/low instep mountain bike frame 
>>>> and do it up as a PPR (Poor Person's Riv), but all the ones I found so far 
>>>> are pretty nasty low end mid-90's BSOs, and all in stupidly small sizes 
>>>> for 
>>>> some reason. It's easy to find quite nice Mixte frames, but they tend to 
>>>> have limited tyre clearance so they probably won't work so well off road. 
>>>> I 
>>>> think it'd be less trouble to just go for the Larkspur in this case. 
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any thoughts on the Marin?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Johnny in Belgium
>>>>
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