Generally speaking, switching from 700c to 650B on any cantilever-equipped 
bike is considered a very bad idea, with two exceptions:
1. you have a poorly placed set of canti-posts so that they manage to work 
OK
2. you have a frame builder remove and attach your canti posts in the right 
place for 650B

If your canti posts are in the right place for 700c, you need to run your 
brake pads a full 19mm lower to hit 650B rims.  That's practically even 
with the pivot itself and the leverage just doesn't work well at all

Generally speaking, switch from 700c to 650B on any 700c bike with large BB 
drop is considered a risky maneuver, with two exceptions:
1. you don't mind a really low BB and pedal strike doesn't concern you
2. you are going to MUCH wider 650B tires, so that the resulting BB height 
may be close

On disc-brake bikes, swapping from 700xTHIC to 650xTHICCC is pretty 
common.  I've got a few bikes in my stable that are intended for that kind 
of flexibility.  My cantilever-Sam is not one of those bikes.  700x38 + 
fenders and it's perfect.  For beefier tires, I grab one of my machines 
that has beefier tires  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 10:08:08 AM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi all, I have a Sam Hillborne without canti posts. I was considering 
> trying 650b hoops to get some even beefier tires on the bike. Has anyone 
> seen it done? Pics?

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