It is amazing to me how much people ignore body proportions when choosing bicycle components. PBH and torso length are not a constant ratio. I have short legs and a long torso - several standard deviations from average. What works for me will not work for most other people. I have never found a swept back bar that I like, not necessarily because of the bars, but because a normal frame simply has a top tube that is several sizes too short. My custom has a top tube that is over 3" longer than the seat tube. There is no stem made that is long enough for me to use Bosco bars on a normal frame. I bought a Rosco Baby, not because I have a baby, but because I wanted the extra frame length. I changed the Boscomooses on my loooong Mystery Bike to Wavie flat bars. Whenever I heard or read about people complaining about frames that had too long of a top tube, I thought - ooh, maybe that is a frame for me, but even those were still not long enough. For many, many years I rode frames that were "too big" for me with 120 mm stems (my 22" 73 Paramount P-15, bought new in 75) . Years ago I got a 24" Paramount P-15 with a 140 mm stem and decided, wow- this stem is actually too long. I cannot ever see myself using Chocos, but they may be perfect for many others - those with long legs and short torsos. But since I found Rivendells, my current searches are for pedals wide enough for my EEEE feet.
Laing proportionally deviant in Delray On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 8:40:46 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote: > I have to say I've never understood the Choco bars (and never tried them). > With no forward sweep, it seems you would need a really long stem and/or > long top tube to make them work. > > Eric > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 3:19 PM David Person <cycli...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I hope to do for the Choco bar what Leah did for the Billie bar, create >> so much adoration for them that Riv sells out their entire stock. >> >> Ok, I don't have the clout to pull that off, but I must say that I do >> love Choco bars. >> >> I run them 'upside down' on both bikes as I like the position the place >> my wrists in when holding the bars at or ahead of the brake levers. Note: >> although given that the right side Nitto logo is always correctly oriented >> regardless of which way the bars are mounted, can they really be upside >> down? I think not. >> >> I just switched my Sam Hillborne over to Choco bars with a Fillet Face >> Plater stem, replacing the Albatross bars and Tallux stem. Needed the new >> stem in order to get the new bars up at the same height as the Albas. >> >> [image: IMG_2931 copy.jpeg] >> [image: IMG_2933 copy.jpeg] >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/84afa3f9-15eb-41b2-b527-5f6a84e08941n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/84afa3f9-15eb-41b2-b527-5f6a84e08941n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0e7a848d-0d18-452a-97ba-ee2645e1ff5fn%40googlegroups.com.