I'm wondering if the new Roadini extended its chainstays to accommodate for 
the larger tire size. 

On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 6:49:26 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Honestly with the less swoopy top tube and sidepulls there isn't as much 
> different than the current Roadini beyond a longer wheelbase.  And if the 
> point is to have albastache or drops then I would think the Roadini would 
> be a touch better. I am sure the new Gallop will be good and people will 
> buy it but I agree with @iamkeith that the previous design was the perfect 
> Riv styled road bike.  Hopefully someone here got one of them. They did 
> sell fast.
>
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 9:08:19 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 4:30:32 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Missed it! Probably wouldn't have jumped anyway - I'm getting a strong 
>>> itch for a Platy - but it's cool!
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>>
>> It must have lasted all of 3 minutes.  I clicked on the link the moment I 
>> saw the email update, but it was already gone.  Probably for the best 
>> because it would have looked awfully silly sitting next to my orange 
>> susie.  Congratulations to whoever got it.
>>
>> Without wanting to "pile on,"  i do feel compelled to point out that this 
>> bike had become an instant holy grail, the moment they decided to switch to 
>> caliper brakes.  I'm sure the production Charlie will be a good bike and 
>> that they'll sell whatever they make.  But, for people like me who already 
>> own caliper-equipped, roadish bikes that are otherwise perfectly adequate, 
>> a charlie with canti brakes had just enough "extra" going for it to 
>> interest me.  With caliper brakes, I'll probably just double down on the 
>> Saluki and Ram, and deny myself the joys of the longer bike yet again.  
>> First world problem if there ever was one.
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe, you need that Stainless Steel Clem!
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 4:04:44 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The prototype is for sale on the Riv site. $2k complete, 57cm. If it 
>>>>> were a 60cm I would have bought it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did some powerpoint measurements and estimate the seat height in the 
>>>>> photo to be 30.6", FWIW.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 10:38 AM Pancake <abe.g...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was excited for a Charles H Gallop too, but no v-brakes means I’m 
>>>>>> out. Wish I could snag that prototype, because that is just an ideal 
>>>>>> setup. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the Sam Hillborne also started with long reach brakes (like mine) 
>>>>>> and eventually made its way to canti/V-brake posts so hopefully CHG goes 
>>>>>> the same way and sooner than later. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, 16 January 2022 at 09:38:06 UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, I was really looking forward to the CHG, but the long reach 
>>>>>>> brakes kill it for me. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 16, 2022, Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am a little shocked that they are apparently bringing that change 
>>>>>>>> over to the Charlie Gallop too. Instead of the V-brake/cantilever 
>>>>>>>> setup 
>>>>>>>> that the previous prototype had. Since they are designing their own V 
>>>>>>>> brakes that look to be quite nice it seems that they would push the 
>>>>>>>> bikes 
>>>>>>>> toward that. The only reason I can think that they would make that 
>>>>>>>> change 
>>>>>>>> is because sidepulls are a little more common on road style bikes. But 
>>>>>>>> making a decision based only on aesthetics seems counter to how 
>>>>>>>> Rivendell 
>>>>>>>> normally does things.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 11:48:38 AM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm so glad I bought my Roadini frame before this change! The 559 
>>>>>>>>> brakes do not work for me: poor power in dry conditions and unusable 
>>>>>>>>> in 
>>>>>>>>> wet. I find that 33mm tires have plenty of cush and 42's would 
>>>>>>>>> probably 
>>>>>>>>> create toe overlap on a 50 size frame. I'm grateful to have found a 
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell frame that works for me. 
>>>>>>>>> [image: DSC00040.JPG]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 9:46:12 PM UTC-8 Eamon Nordquist 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I saw today the announcement that the new Roadinis are niw 
>>>>>>>>>> designed for R559 brakes and will easily clear 42 mm tires. Good 
>>>>>>>>>> news, as 
>>>>>>>>>> far as I’m concerned! The only thing I am slightly sad about is that 
>>>>>>>>>> they 
>>>>>>>>>> aren’t coming in grilver, which is THE color for the Roadini, in my 
>>>>>>>>>> opinion. That may be influenced by my love for the silver gray imron 
>>>>>>>>>> paint 
>>>>>>>>>> on early 80’s Treks. Regardless, if I have a  job by then, I may 
>>>>>>>>>> have to 
>>>>>>>>>> get one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eamon
>>>>>>>>>> Seattle 
>>>>>>>>>>
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