And Gilles Berthoud also ships to the U.S.  Very good to work with and very 
fast delivery -- 2 or 3 days.  And likely to be less costly than purchasing 
stateside.

Steve Cole
Arlington, VA

On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 11:30:23 AM UTC-7 John Phillips wrote:

> Rene Herse sells the Gilles Berthoud saddles in the U.S.
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/product-category/components/saddles/
>
> John
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:16:59 AM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the recommendations! Rivet does have a couple of models 
>> that are shorter and, though generally more expensive than Brooks, are not 
>> as expensive as the Gilles Berthoud Marie Blanque. As far as unsprung 
>> models for more upright riding, Brooks doesn't have anything currently 
>> available except B17S. I'm not sure the Berthoud is even available in the 
>> U.S. except by order from France. I haven't run across anything non-leather 
>> that would look good on the bike and be functional. One thing I learned 
>> from this search is to measure my sit bone width which makes the likelihood 
>> greater of having success from ordering a saddle I can't try in advance. 
>> Rivet does have a good return policy though.
>> Linda
>>
>> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 6:07:08 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> [image: FECE4CC1-CCA6-48D0-A2BA-33437A674267.jpeg]I have a white 
>>> leather Rivet on my raspberry Platypus! It is shorter, but also that means 
>>> it cheats you of some setback on your seatpost. I love it for comfort 
>>> though. Rivet Sonora.
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 5:38:32 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think Rivet has some shorter nosed saddles, too.  Good reputation.  
>>>> I've never ridden one, though.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 10:33:00 AM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for all the good ideas. That Berthoud Marie Blanque looks good: 
>>>>> leather with the shorter length I like. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 6:03:36 AM UTC-8 sof...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On my platypus (soon to be on my Clem), I've tried the B17 regular, 
>>>>>> B17 special, B67s, and have settled on the speedy but comfier to me 
>>>>>> Gilles 
>>>>>> Berthoud Marie Blanque. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After having tried quite a number of different saddles over the 
>>>>>>> years, my wife has the Selle Italia Lady Gel flow saddle (in the 160mm 
>>>>>>> wide 
>>>>>>> L size) on all her bikes: 
>>>>>>> https://www.selleitalia.com/en/saddles/lady-gel-flow-s/.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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