I asked about the front rack a few days ago and... no dice! 

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 5:28:48 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I would be pretty interested in that front rack if you wanted to sell that 
> off separate from the bike. If you go that way shoot me a message.
>
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 4:14:21 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Ahmed is excluding a $200 saddle and $75 pedals.  He's pictured the bike 
>> without the $40 basket.  He's dropped the price a full $400, so he's paying 
>> more than retail buying back those parts from the future buyer.  
>>
>> ...but now you've added a $240 rear rack in the photos?  Is that $240 
>> included?  If so, you've dropped the price of the bike a TON.  My advice 
>> would be to take the racks off and sell them.  That rear rack (the 33R) is 
>> sold out at Riv.  Somebody has got to want that.  
>>
>> Bill "free sales consultant" Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:11:25 AM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>
>>> Per the advice of the esteemed Bill L. and the venerable David I have 
>>> updated the bike pic and price. $2500 no pedals, saddle. 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>> Ahmed in San Mateo 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 4:31 PM Ahmed Elgasseir <aelga...@castilleja.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the tips David! I’ll get on it and update the posting. Glad 
>>>> you’re enjoying the Roadeo. Kinda wish I hadn’t sold it. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> A
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 4:14 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Ahmed,
>>>>> I'd agree with Bill: Put another saddle on (And, raise the seat post 
>>>>> at least two cm!) -- A Berthoud is worth too much and they are quite 
>>>>> individual. 
>>>>> Take the basket and rack off -- They obscure the view of the front and 
>>>>> represent one use of the bike that may narrow it down too much. 
>>>>> And, pull the bags off and offer them separately. 
>>>>> Now you can offer the more essential Sam.
>>>>> Turn it around and get a front quarter picture and then a full drive 
>>>>> side picture of the bike. (NO coffee cup!!)
>>>>> I'd be interested but I think I'd go for a 51cm/650b frame.
>>>>> David in Berkeley (Who is happy with your old 55cm Roadeo!)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:45:56 AM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can’t remember off hand but I’ll take a pic and upload later today. 
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:33 AM steve <steven...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What stem shifters are on the Sam?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 11:14:45 AM UTC-5 Ahmed Elgasseir 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Possibly. What exactly are you looking for? and at what price range?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:04 AM Brady Smith <bradys...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Ahmed, 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any chance you'd consider parting it out or just selling the 
>>>>>>>>> rolling chassis? 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Brady in SLC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 8:27:27 AM UTC-7 Ahmed Elgasseir 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the advice Bill. I’ll think on that. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 7:16 AM Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ahmed is selling a $2900 Hillborne.  
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I notice you have a super expensive saddle on the bike.  If you 
>>>>>>>>>>> sold the bike with no saddle, you could drop the price.  If you 
>>>>>>>>>>> don't like 
>>>>>>>>>>> the saddle, maybe you could sell the saddle separately which could 
>>>>>>>>>>> also 
>>>>>>>>>>> lower the price of the remaining build.  You could do something 
>>>>>>>>>>> similar 
>>>>>>>>>>> with the front rack, which is pretty valuable, and desirable, and 
>>>>>>>>>>> currently 
>>>>>>>>>>> sold out at Riv.  
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I mention this because over on iBob, a poster is requesting to 
>>>>>>>>>>> buy a Berthoud Aubisque saddle, in any color, before going and 
>>>>>>>>>>> paying full 
>>>>>>>>>>> retail.  If your Berthoud saddle is an Aubisque, maybe you could 
>>>>>>>>>>> sell it 
>>>>>>>>>>> separately.  Most buyers of used bikes expect to BYO pedals and 
>>>>>>>>>>> saddle.  
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>>>>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed 
>>>>>>>>>>> Elgasseir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's try this again
>>>>>>>>>>>> For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Velocity Atlas 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud 
>>>>>>>>>>>> saddle, Nitto 
>>>>>>>>>>>> seatpost and Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks 
>>>>>>>>>>>> bartape 
>>>>>>>>>>>> with stem shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only 
>>>>>>>>>>>> about 1k 
>>>>>>>>>>>> miles on it. Selling to thin the herd and make room for another 
>>>>>>>>>>>> build. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> $2900 and prefer local only. Would love to sell it here before I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> put it up 
>>>>>>>>>>>> on Craigslist. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ahmed in San Mateo, CA
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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