Well, since I am new to the group and still being moderated, this will probably not get posted until long after everyone has laughed at me for the question, but: I realised after posting that the information on bikeinsights, specifically the top tube angle, had been computed from a mis-entered top tube length of 60 *mm* instead of 60 cm!! That's where the 12 degrees surely comes from. I made the post over a week ago, and realised the source of the mistake the following day and emailed the moderator to request that my post not to forwarded to the list, and I suspect this follow-up will take a couple of weeks to get approved too. Now, since I mentioned the issue on bikeinsights to my dealer, he prodded them and they fixed the top tube length in the data but they did not fix the computed top tube slope, which still says 12 degrees. So this is a separate (and mistaken) issue than the updated geometry for the MIT frames, which I understand. All is well and I expect to take delivery of my 6-degree-slope AHH in a few weeks! (The dealer got the last of the 58-cm frames at RBW when it was announced that dealers may not get deliveries this spring as planned). I've been planning the build, am very excited and will post again when I really am a RBW owner. Best - Jon in Montreal
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:35:13 AM UTC-5 J. W. wrote: > > Hi everyone, this is my first post to this forum. After years of coveting > a Riv, I ordered a Homer and my dealer expects delivery this spring. As I > was just checking geometry to make sure I have a stem of the right length > ready for my reach, I noticed that the 2021 model has a considerably > steeper slope to the top tube (looks like almost 12 degrees, compared to 6, > if bikeinsights has it right). I'm a bit shocked, as I hadn't realised > there would be such a difference, and I hadn't read anything about any big > changes (I know they posted the measurements, and it's on me for not doing > due diligence, but I would have thought such a big change would have > warranted mention on the Riv site, with maybe their thinking on why, and > perhaps some comparison photos). All my visual reference for what I had to > look forward to is now out of date and of course I'm second-guessing > myself, maybe I should have ordered a Sam instead -- I'm mostly a > one-bike-at-a-time guy and my current bike, which I've ridden for a long > time, has a horizontal tube, and I felt 6 degrees was already a big step > for me. But, by looking at and admiring a lot of people's builds I came to > see the slight slope as a good thing and I embraced my 6-degree-slopey > future, step boldly into the future etc. > > Looking at the current photos on the Riv site, the Homer and the Sam have > exactly the same top-tube slope (if you compare the pictures taken in > profile they have models that line up perfectly -- switching back and forth > between tabs, once I got them lined up, shows that they are close to > identical), and they say there that the photos represent the 2021 geometry. > So what's going on? If the stack has been increased by as much as the > dimensions in the chart say, there's no way that those photos represent the > 2021 geometry accurately. I don't know what to do now! > > What do you think? > > Jon > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/58d5a06d-0600-47f3-9926-4b6eca371947n%40googlegroups.com.
