The JIS is basically a Phillips with a shorter point. The are a lot of 
other detail differences, but the one that matters the most is the length 
of the tip. If you have a JIS screw, you cannot get a Phillips in deep 
enough to engage properly, and the Phillips can rotate without the screw 
and sometimes strip the head of the screw. The JIS screwdriver head will 
fit deeper into the JIS screw and turn the screw without slipping. The JIS 
screwdriver generally fits better in a Phillips screw than a Phillips 
screwdriver in a JIS screw. There is an even pointier version called a Reed 
or Reed and Prince screwdriver that has the same problem in a Phillips 
screw that a Phillips screwdriver has in JIS screw. A Reed and Prince 
screwdriver doesn't work at all in a JIS screw.

Laing
Don't ask me about the difference between machine screws and bolts

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 12:11:57 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> What's different about the way that screwdriver is made that makes it work 
> better than run-of-the-mill tools?  I can't see enough details from that 
> Rivbike photo.
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 8:54:59 AM UTC-6 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you John for sharing. I recently changed the bearings in one of my 
>> WI hubs using a home made tool which worked, but was not optimal. I can see 
>> the value in this one and will order it.
>>
>> I don't know if others have tried the Hozan JIS 2 screwdriver which Riv 
>> sells, but I have and it's rather amazing at how well it works compared to 
>> a std Phillips head screwdriver. After all those years of the wrong tool 
>> slipping and not really working to finally using a tool designed for the 
>> job is certainly satisfying. Well worth the $20.
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/copy-of-tool-park-multi-tool-mt-1?_pos=7&_sid=b92c34749&_ss=r
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 1:30:35 AM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> A close second to riding bikes is the joy I find in working with tools 
>>> of all sorts. This is one of the more effable qualities that make bikes so 
>>> cool: you can ride them AND wrench them. From an early age, my father 
>>> instilled in me the great pleasure that can be had in finding 'the right 
>>> tool for the job.' I've made a handful of tools that work fine, but to use 
>>> a tool well-made and for the purpose can be a real treat. 
>>>
>>> To wit, I recently acquired a bearing extractor and press that I used to 
>>> replace the bearings on my White hub. I'm not sure what such a procedure 
>>> would cost in a shop, but I'd be hard-pressed to put a price on the 
>>> satisfaction that comes from playing with cool tools and tinkering with 
>>> bicycles in my own workshop. With these nice (and inexpensive) tools, 
>>> replacing bearings (a first for me) was smooth, fun, and easy.
>>> [image: bearingtools.jpg]
>>> Incidentally, these came from bearingprotools in the UK.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>

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