My riding buddy has his phone and a wireless computer on his bike. He tells 
me the mileage, I write on my calendar hanging on the fridge by a Riv 
superconducting magnet, by hand, with ink. Or trace it out on google map. 

Mike SLO CA

On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 2:51:15 PM UTC-8 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> It’s been great hearing about how people are keeping track of miles. From 
> what I’ve gathered, some sort of journal or spreadsheet seems to be the way 
> to keep track of long term data. As far as collecting data, there are many 
> options and pros and cons to all. 
>
> My current method of tracking via GPS watch allows me to see the metrics 
> of individual rides but since I’m not synced to Strava or another service, 
> I’m not easily seeing the grand totals and at this point in my life, that’s 
> all I’m curious about. I used to use a Garmin watch which sends the data to 
> their own service as well as syncing to my Apple iPhone health app. I can 
> look back and see data from individual rides but can’t see the grand 
> totals. Maybe it’s hidden somewhere but I haven’t found it. I now use an 
> Apple Watch which shows all the same data as the Garmin but has the added 
> benefit of asking me if I’m on a bike ride and if I want to track if I 
> forgot to start the watch. This is annoying when I don’t care about 
> tracking. And its annoying when I want to track but forgot to hit start as 
> I’m usually a mile or two in when it senses that I’m on a bike ride. I’d 
> say I track 75% of rides because it’s so easy, why not. I look back at 
> maybe 3% of those rides!
>
> If I want to see an odometer reading which sounds like fun to me, I need 
> to be diligent about starting and stopping the GPS. The same would go if I 
> were to use a Garmin bike GPS with navigation, etc. These devices are all 
> great but they require diligent starting in stopping which in my experience 
> has always been some sort of failure. (I’ve tracked many a hike only to get 
> in my car and drive halfway home with the watch still tracking.) And if I 
> want to swap one between bikes and know the total mileage for a particular 
> bike, I have to manually log that info which is way more work than what I 
> currently want to put into it. 
>
> Using my iPhone to track with apps like Strava, Ride With GPS, or 
> Cyclemeter (BTW there appears to be two versions of Cyclemeter in the Apple 
> App Store and one is Russian and looks like a rip off of the original) 
> might be the way to go to get tallies. As several folks mentioned they have 
> used these apps to their success. I used to track with my phone and a DIY 
> mount and it was great and not great. Super easy to navigate with maps and 
> receive calls or texts. Not great because I was forced to receive all calls 
> and texts! Most of the time I don’t want to be connected to the outside 
> world when riding. But there are times when it’s inevitable and I guess 
> that’s just the world we live in these days. 
>
> The biggest problem I faced with the phone was that it would overheat in 
> the sun rendering it completely useless until it cooled down. Yes I can 
> start it and toss it in a bag but then it’s chewing through battery. Yes I 
> could use a battery brick but I don’t want to go to all that trouble! I 
> have a beacon light on my Hillborne and I guess I could keep it plugged in 
> to the built in USB charger but again…more effort than I wish to put into 
> all this. 
>
> The simple bike computer is something I haven’t considered in 20 years. I 
> remember how excited I was as a kid in the early 90’s to get one on my 
> bike. I think I only used it to bomb the biggest hill in my neighborhood 
> and see how fast I could go. It was really simple and sparkly 
> blueish-purple to match my Mongoose. 
>
> With all the fancy metrics GPS apps and devices offer, the simple bike 
> computer seems to offer nothing of useful value Tim this day and age. But 
> alas, hearing everyone’s methods has helped me to realize some really 
> strong points. The simple bike computer (which I’ll now call the SBC since 
> I’m typing this on my phone) does something I love—it starts tracking the 
> moment my wheel starts spinning regardless of whether I want it to or not. 
> I can’t think of a better way to keep track of total mileage over the 
> course of a bike. The batteries last for years and I can set the odometer 
> after battery changes to pick up where it left off. Of course it needs to 
> go on the bike when it’s new (or new to me) and I can’t swap it from bike 
> to bike. I have to run a cable and put an ugly sensor on my fork or I can 
> spend more and get a wireless one that’s 90% as ugly but more complicated. 
> I don’t want a wire on my fork especially since I go to the trouble to 
> internally route my dynamo cables so that’s a big con. 
>
> I can track individual rides with the tripometer or it will automatically 
> track how long since I last cared about how long an individual trip was. I 
> can’t see my GPS course or my elevation gain or loss but I can turn the 
> phone or watch on if I want that data. For my desire to learn about how 
> much I ride in a year or over the course of owning a bike, this might be 
> the simplest and most reliable option given how little effort I want to put 
> into tracking. Logging total mileage in a year in a little journal sounds 
> like fun. 
>
> At the end of the day I want to get out and ride so that I’m driving my 
> car less, staying active, and giving my mind a break from the go-go-go 
> lifestyle I live in Los Angeles. I want to enjoy the (subtle) changing 
> seasons, landscapes, and neighborhoods. I want to ride with friends and 
> family and I want to ride just to ride. Riding is fun and for some, being 
> able to look back at where one rode, for how long and how far, is part of 
> that fun. And sometimes it’s fun to not know. Some days I like knowing, 
> some days I don’t. 
>
> So I bought a $27 SBC. We’ll see if it earns itself a permanent fixture on 
> one of my bikes! Maybe I’ll mount the sensor near the rack mount and run 
> the cable and computer into a bag so it’s inconspicuous and I can see it 
> only when I want to. I think it would be fun to glance at it every month or 
> so and see how much I rode. Maybe I’ll attach it to a tiny Voille strap and 
> throw it on the bars from time to time. 
>
> Ben—if you read this far I’m down to go on a group ride. I think Brian may 
> have texted you to say that I met him this morning as we ran into each 
> other on our commute and he yelled “Hey I have a Hillborne too!” Always fun 
> running into other Riv folks on the road!

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