P.S. I have the stock complete 45 clem with toscos... 

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 3:09:20 PM UTC-4 Sofie C wrote:

> Hi all! I'm 5'1.5 and shrinking lol. I ride the current 45 clem and it is 
> a perfect fit. I could ride the 50 cm platy bc of the low standover but it 
> did feel like a bit of a stretch, reach-wise. Changing from loscos to 
> boscos (thanks to Leah!) helped it feel more comfortable -- and perhaps if 
> I had tried a shorter stem (?), that would have helped even more. Alas I 
> decided to sell the platy after I felt the perfect fit of the 45 clem.
>
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:30:11 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Low stand over. Short stem. Swept back bars. Should work for an untall 
>> rider. ;)
>> Doug
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:25:37 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> So I'm wrong. This happens occasionally! šŸ™ƒ
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:06:28 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sofia is! She has a blue Clem from the lottery and I donā€™t think she is 
>>>> 5ā€™1ā€.
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 26, 2022, at 1:15 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ļ»æI wish they would cut this part from the product description:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - 45cm / 27.5-inch new mountain bikey size wheels. Typical rider 
>>>>    height: 5-0 to 5-5
>>>>    - 52cm / 27.5-inch new mountain bikey size wheels. Typical rider 
>>>>    height: 5-5 to 5-11
>>>>
>>>> It's from the first batch and doesn't even correspond to the PBH recs 
>>>> elsewhere in the description. Nobody 5 feet tall is riding a current 45cm 
>>>> Clem L. 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:34:32 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good catch Joe. I think that is a good change and makes sense with the 
>>>>> loooong  chainstays.
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To clarify, the 45cm Clem L is a 27.5/650b bike now. And longer ETT 
>>>>>> than the old 26-ers. 
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:06 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith,
>>>>>>> I ride a 52 Clem and am 5'10" with an 83 PBH. I could ride a 59 I 
>>>>>>> think but I prefer the 650b wheels. The 45 Clem has 26 inch wheels 
>>>>>>> while 
>>>>>>> the 59 has 700c. It's so cool that wheel size scales to frame size! 
>>>>>>> That 
>>>>>>> you can ride multiple sizes is one advantage (of several) to the low 
>>>>>>> top 
>>>>>>> tube bikes. Here is a photo of mine set up for me and you can see I 
>>>>>>> have 
>>>>>>> plenty of seat post showing.
>>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Clem L.jpg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 7:30:04 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith, hereā€™s a photo of my Platypus; you can see how little seat 
>>>>>>>> post is showing. But I promise itā€™s the right size!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2022, at 7:27 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>>>>>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ļ»æHi Keith, I have the 52 Clem and the 55 Platy. They are completely 
>>>>>>>> different bikes and the sizing is confusing because the 52 Clem feels 
>>>>>>>> bigger than the 55 Platypus. I am 5ā€™6ā€, with an 81 cm PBH. 
>>>>>>>> Technically, I 
>>>>>>>> would be sized for the top end of the 50 Platy, but I like to size up 
>>>>>>>> if I 
>>>>>>>> can. I have very little seat post showing, but I canā€™t imagine riding 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> smaller-sized Platypus. I love how the 55 Platypus fits me. The Clem 
>>>>>>>> also 
>>>>>>>> feels right to me, but it took a lot of experimenting with stems 
>>>>>>>> before I 
>>>>>>>> settled into it. I think I have an 80 on the Clem and a 100 on the 
>>>>>>>> Platy. 
>>>>>>>> After riding the Clem, my Platypus will feel a little cramped to me at 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> start of the ride. I think a 50 would definitely feel too small after 
>>>>>>>> riding a 52 Clem. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would be helpful if you could test ride, but these bikes are 
>>>>>>>> rare as henā€™s teeth, arenā€™t they? People are really nice about letting 
>>>>>>>> other Listers test ride a Rivendell, so maybe post a ā€œWant to test 
>>>>>>>> rideā€ 
>>>>>>>> thread? There might be someone with a 45 Clem L or a 55 Platy in your 
>>>>>>>> area 
>>>>>>>> who would let you throw a leg over it for a hot minuteā€¦
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have any leads on the bikes youā€™re considering?  I hope so! 
>>>>>>>> I donā€™t often see Cheviots or Platypuses for sale and it will be a 
>>>>>>>> long 
>>>>>>>> wait until Rivendell gets their next shipments. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 10:38:22 PM UTC-4 Keith Swanson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a 52 Clem L that feels a bit large for me and am trying to 
>>>>>>>>> decide whether to replace it with a 50 Platypus or a 45 Clem L (If 
>>>>>>>>> anyone 
>>>>>>>>> has a 50 Cheviot frame in silver or blue I would be interested).  
>>>>>>>>> Does 
>>>>>>>>> anyone know if there's much of a difference between the two sizes?  
>>>>>>>>> The 52 
>>>>>>>>> Clementine I test rode felt much different than the one I have now.
>>>>>>>>
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