I did have a Pass and Stow rack on a Black Mountain Cycles road+ and it was 
perfectly centered (mounted on lower eyelet). I’ve seen the rack mounted on 
the lower eyelet on a Susie and it looked good. The upper mount makes it 
“look” too high and forward from what I have seen. Can’t wait to get this 
thing and play around!

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 5:56:51 PM UTC-7 Mr. Ray wrote:

> Ideally, the center of the front panniers should sit as close to the 
> center of the front wheel axle as possible.  This provides the most 
> predictable handling.  Two issues with the Pass and Stowe front rack are 
> the panniers sit higher than a traditional "low rider" and the rack is a 
> bit too far forward which means the center of the panniers is in front of 
> the front wheel axle.  
>
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 5:21:40 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> Thanks for the the confidence that I will be happy with the front rack! 
>> If my bike was as loaded as yours, it would be just about everything I own! 
>> Haha. Great looking bike!
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:00:09 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And every barking slappy drops grams! Nice rig.
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 12:16:23 PM UTC-4 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is the exact setup I have on my Susie. The Pass and Stow is 
>>>> excellent for use with panniers and a basket or just the platform. Here's 
>>>> my setup I used for a long trip last summer. I would say the bike handles 
>>>> best with weight balanced front and rear. Somewhere in the 60/40 or 65/35 
>>>> range is great. The large saddlebag is an ideal counterweight. If you're 
>>>> not toting a skateboard around on your trips, it's very easy to get a good 
>>>> weight distribution with this setup. Without the panniers, the same setup 
>>>> makes for a great commute bike.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 10:37:07 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’m interested in this as well. I think a good part of it comes down 
>>>>> to handling preferences. Some have said it handles great with a front 
>>>>> load 
>>>>> and others said it was terrible. I picked up a Pass and Stow rack for my 
>>>>> Susie. I plan to use panniers more than the flat rack but that will 
>>>>> depend 
>>>>> on handling. Can’t wait to get this frame and put it together to find out!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 2:47:31 PM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any one have experience front loading a Susie for camping. I like 
>>>>>> keeping an eye on my stuff. Was thinking of a basket and two panniers up 
>>>>>> front as a set up. 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>

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