stocking feet pbh is 89, with sneakers on it moves up to 92.5.  I have
big feet (size 13).  The bike will mostly be ridden as a commuter in
NYC.  If the actual standover with 35mm tires is 87 or so, that would
give me 5.5 cm standover, over two inches.  If it follows that the 61
would have 85 standover on 35 mm tires, that would give me three
inches of standover, which seems like alot, for even a country bike.
On a 63 my saddle will be approximately 15.5 cm above the top tube,
that seems like i will get the requisite fistfull of post.  Maybe im
wrong, Im just afraid on the 61 i will have trouble getting the handle
bars a couple cm above the saddle.  thanks for all the input.

On May 11, 11:03 am, Patrick in VT <psh...@drm.com> wrote:
> On May 11, 9:22 am, tucker <jamison.bross...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks everyone,
> > I did call Rivendell, and they told me i could go with either size.
> > On my current bike a custom track frame.  The standover is 84.5, the
> > top tup is 59cm and stem a 110 nitto pearl is about 4 cm below my
> > seat. My saddle height is right around 78.5.  I am planning on using a
> > nitto dirt drop stem with mustache bars.  I guess i am leaning towards
> > the larger frame, so i can get higher handle bars easier.
>
> with a saddle height 78.5, you're going to have very little seatpost
> showing on a 63, so spend some time thinking about where you want the
> bars.  assuming you don't want the bars at/above saddle height, you
> might not be able to get the bars *low* enough with dirtdrop/m-bar set
> up.
>
> i recall seeing a rockin' AHH recently (maybe jinxed's?) - the
> dirtdrop stem is fully inserted and the bars still look "up" for his
> riding style (he rides stuff where it helps to have a bit of bar
> drop).
>
> and speaking of riding style ...  standover clearance is a personal
> thing.  if you think you don't need it for whatever kind of riding
> your doing, that's cool.    i'm intimate with the top tubes on some of
> my bikes too.  but, if you're going to be rough-riding, and anticipate
> needing to put a foot down every now and then, especially in places
> where it's not always convenient to put a foot down - standover
> helps.  or, if you plan on loading up your hilsen for a tour of sorts
> - having more standover helps.   and i can't imagine that you're going
> to have much on a 63.  just something to consider.
>
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