I actually have the Boscomoose. Just got it after first swapping out the 650 
wide Tosco for a 550 wide Bosco. I just finished a 21 mile mixed surface ride 
with the 580 wide Boscomoose on my Clem. I have plenty of length & a lot of 
flexibility with height. The 30mm / 3cm of extra width is noticeable, neither 
good or bad. Reach is very similar to the Bosco / FacePlater combo. The only 
issue I might have is the fixed, overly horizontal grip area. Seems most folks 
& Rivendell recommends at least a 7 degree angle down of the tips. Cannot get 
that angle with the ‘moose.

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> On Sep 10, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Mackenzy Albright <mackenzy.albri...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I love my Boscomoose on my clementine. I think the 3mm wider bar makes the 
> 5mm shorter feel natural enough as long as you can get the bar low enough and 
> you have enough top tube. On the clementine the top tube is long and feels 
> good. Tried them on a Romanceur and the shorter TT wanted a lower bar with 
> longer stem so set up loscos. I also enjoy the extra security for off road 
> riding. If you can find a set and have the spare cash, give em a whirrl. 
> 
>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 4:01:11 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Definitely ride it for a while before deciding. I just tilted my Billies up 
>> this week, it's probably the same angle my Boscomoose was now! 😂
>> 
>>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 3:49:22 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> My judgement is likely a bit premature. I failed to mention that my Bosco 
>>> was 550 wide, the ‘moose 580. I did notice the solid feel straight away 
>>> although the FacePlater is very secure. Nice to have options.:)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 9, 2022, at 6:37 PM, J J <junes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> I have a Boscomoose on my Hunq. I guess I'm fortunate that the fixed tilt 
>>>> angle works very well for me. I had run the regular Bosco with a stem, and 
>>>> it felt less secure than the triangulated and reinforced Boscomoose, no 
>>>> matter how tightly I clamped the stem to the bar (and you can only go so 
>>>> tight anyway). 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So tilt adjustments aside, the Boscomoose feels more stable, stiffer, less 
>>>> flexy, and certainly has less unwanted movement than the separate bar and 
>>>> stem combo, especially on bumpy terrain and any riding that requires 
>>>> weight on the bar. This is probably a much more significant consideration 
>>>> for those of us who weigh more than 210 than it is for folks lighter than 
>>>> that.
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 5:27:40 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>> I also learned this with the exact bars you're comparing. Bars that 
>>>>>> can't be adjusted for tilt are always a crapshoot and you're probably 
>>>>>> going to lose that bet unless the front end is really slack like a Clem 
>>>>>> or Gus/Susie. My custom IS that slack and they worked ok for me, but I 
>>>>>> still preferred the regular Bosco (which I then sold for a Billie, but 
>>>>>> that's another thread). 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 2:11:45 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Or, when to leave well enough alone? I recently traded my 650 wide 
>>>>>>> Tosco for a 550 wide Bosco. This worked to let me achieve a higher bar 
>>>>>>> without exposing more stem & even gave me the flexibility of lowering 
>>>>>>> the stem a smidge. The narrower width gave me a more natural feeling 
>>>>>>> wrist angle and overall felt much more comfortable without loosing any 
>>>>>>> control. I liked it so much that it really made me want to try a 
>>>>>>> Boscomoose. 
>>>>>>> I am really interested in any others thoughts who may have compared the 
>>>>>>> Bosco & Boscomoose. My observations; even though the "extension" of the 
>>>>>>> 'moose is 120mm vs. my Faceplater's 135mm, there is in reality only 5mm 
>>>>>>> difference. This I assume is due to the upward angle of the Faceplater 
>>>>>>> extension - effectively shortening it. In any event the reach to the 
>>>>>>> bar ends is quite different. With the exact 120mm of exposed stem the 
>>>>>>> bar ends of the 'moose are nearly 2" higher than the Bosco! This I 
>>>>>>> presume is mostly due to the more horizontal & fixed angle nature of 
>>>>>>> the grip areas - they do not tilt down very much.
>>>>>>> I will probably play with these a bit more but unless I stumble on to 
>>>>>>> some adjustment magic I will be returning to the Bosco / Faceplater 
>>>>>>> combo. I had really high hopes for the Boscomoose because it just looks 
>>>>>>> so cool.
>>>>> 
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