It's been years since I've ridden more than six or so miles, but even for 
that length, I much prefer to have the larger (72"???) Jones Loop Bar.  
I've never been able to get comfortable on drop bars but the Jones bar 
provides the same two upper positions, comfortably.  

On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 8:09:33 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I am quite comfortable on my Nitto Wavie bars with Ergon GC1 grips for 
> 100+ km rides - one very good hand position can be better than several 
> less-than-optimal positions.  Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever 
> experienced numbness with this setup, but I do sometimes with really long 
> rides on Noodles (but at least 80 km before it happens).  I should try a 
> brevet with them sometime!  
>
> On Sunday, 23 October 2022 at 21:29:08 UTC-7 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
>
>> Late to the party - but....
>>
>> My favorite non-drop bars for any length ride are Albastache. Close 
>> second are Mustache bars. Not much difference between the two. Albastache 
>> are a little wider and have slightly less drop. I find it hard to tell the 
>> difference when switching between bikes though. Mustache bars can be had 
>> from suppliers other than Riv.
>>
>> Corwin
>>
>> On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 10:20:30 AM UTC-7 Chris K wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the replies. I guess the answer is... all of the above!
>>>
>>> Billie, Choco, Albatross, Bosco, and some non-Riv options.
>>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 11:39:57 AM UTC-6 David Pulsipher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Albatross for everything. Have done four day tours with them, and short 
>>>> rides. Everything in between. Super super comfortable.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:23:36 AM UTC-6 larson....@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In the past I have ridden mostly with drop bars and still do. I have 
>>>>> done some touring with Jones loop bars, and like them very much. This 
>>>>> spring I built up my first Riv, an Appaloosa, and chose Billie bars. I 
>>>>> have 
>>>>> come to believe these bars are the most comfortable of any bar I have 
>>>>> tried. I have ridden up to about 60 miles, usually mixed terrain, and 
>>>>> have 
>>>>> no soreness in hands, shoulders or neck. I think that the flex in these 
>>>>> bars with a quill stem is one of the factors. I tried bullmoose bars and 
>>>>> liked them for off-road riding, but much stiffer and overall less 
>>>>> comfortable for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 8:58:24 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been waiting what feels like forever for those Billie bars to 
>>>>>> come back in stock Eric! I like the Better sco quite a bit, but the 
>>>>>> forward 
>>>>>> position isn’t great for me. Still very comfortable overall though. Just 
>>>>>> can’t wait to try the Billie! I have the Albatross on my Clem H and they 
>>>>>> are great, slightly more width and room to move should make them even 
>>>>>> better. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 4:21:28 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am happy to report that the 55 wide Bosco has proved itself for 
>>>>>>> me. I routinely go 40’ish miles of mixed surface & as far as 60. I have 
>>>>>>> felt as fresh at the end of these rides as at the start. I have no 
>>>>>>> doubt 
>>>>>>> that it (Bosco) is but one component of the Clem recipe; geometry, long 
>>>>>>> & 
>>>>>>> high stem, plush tires.., it seems a perfect blend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 3:57 PM, Brian Turner <brok...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The bars I've found most comfortable for longer days in the saddle 
>>>>>>> (which I define as 40 to 65 miles) are as follows:
>>>>>>> Salsa Cowchipper 48cm (flared gravel drop)
>>>>>>> Velo Orange Grand Cru Randonneur bars 48cm (more traditional drop 
>>>>>>> but with a bit of flare and a very slight rise / sweep in the ramps)
>>>>>>> Jones Loop bars 66cm (adventure-style bar with a nice sweep)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've also used Tosco / Bosco style swept-back bars, but like you, 
>>>>>>> around 30 miles and I start to wish I had a different position.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 3:25 PM Chris K <cmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just a general question to the group: what handlebar do you like 
>>>>>>>> best for rides longer than say, 15 miles?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I assume many of you would say drops. So to refine the question a 
>>>>>>>> bit, what non-drop bar do you like best for longer rides?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Personally, almost all of my rides are in the 2-15 mile range. I 
>>>>>>>> run bike errands and/or commute by bike in the city most days, 
>>>>>>>> accounting 
>>>>>>>> for most of these miles. For this mileage and use, the Billie bar is a 
>>>>>>>> proven winner for me. However, this summer I took a few 20-30 mile 
>>>>>>>> rides 
>>>>>>>> further afield and felt myself wanting something different. Part of my 
>>>>>>>> problem is I only have one bike - an around-town errand bike that is 
>>>>>>>> being 
>>>>>>>> asked to go on longer rides on both pavement and gravel, and hills 
>>>>>>>> start to 
>>>>>>>> come into play. The other problem is I want to stick with MTB levers 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> shifters. I don't want to do a drop bar conversion. I did pick up both 
>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>> Choco and a Wavie to try out. No significant miles ridden with them 
>>>>>>>> yet 
>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, I know it comes down to personal preference and many other 
>>>>>>>> factors. Nonetheless, I do wonder which of the Rivendell handlebars 
>>>>>>>> emerge 
>>>>>>>> as favorites for longer riding?
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