I’m really curious what the frameset will end up priced at. And when those 
Ortho bars will be back! Haha. It they were a 25.4 instead of 26 bar clamp 
would make them seemingly perfect. Having to buy them and a new FacePlater 
means I’ll likely have Doom bend me something similar when they start 
taking orders again so I can keep the stem I have. 

On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 5:16:28 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here’s a front-on shot of that AI Crust fork crown, if anyone is 
> interested.
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> On Oct 31, 2022, at 9:35 PM, Hoch in ut <cack...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the photo and details. 
>
>
> I don’t think stack will be an issue. It’s obvious made for swept back 
> riser bars (ie Ortho, Bosco, Albatross, etc). Handlebars look about level 
> with the saddle in the picture. I personally have my Romanceur set up with 
> about 1” drop (with Albatross). . 
> I’m looking forward to its release. I don’t do well with super upright 
> riding position( Gus, Suz, Clem). I like the slightly sporty riding 
> position with riser bars. 
>
> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 2:52:54 PM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: 10502AD6-F020-4485-8CA5-11800239A776.jpeg]
>>
>> This is what my rear clearance looks like 29x2.5 Ehline. I know I know, 
>> take the boot off. Haha. 
>>
>> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 12:51:04 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, it looks to me like steel blades in an aluminum crown - not 
>>> unlike the bontrager composite forks that were popular upgrades in the 
>>> early 90s.  I kind of dig it.  To each his own  but I also really like the 
>>> dropouts.  Reminds me of sturdy bmx forks - as well as early klunker 
>>> upgrade forks - not wallmart.  Clearly I'm swooned by historical references 
>>> though.
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 1:03:39 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like a torture device. The only thing that rides worse than 
>>>> straight aluminum forks, would be straight aluminum disc forks. I know:
>>>> [image: IMG_0387 (2)s.JPG]
>>>>
>>>> Laing
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 2:37:11 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here's a recent teaser photo of the Crust AL bike:
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: crustbikes-al.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> -Dave (looking at too many bikes while finalizing parts for a Platy 
>>>>> build)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 11:34:04 AM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately there are no details yet, just teasers. Supposed to be 
>>>>>> something like the purple M2 specialized he’s been riding but with 27.5 
>>>>>> up 
>>>>>> to 2.6” tire and some tweaks he thinks will make it better. My favorite 
>>>>>> rides are mountain goating around and having to carry through sections. 
>>>>>> Exploration rides. So the light bike seems like it would be fun for 
>>>>>> that. 
>>>>>> But there are only 50 frames made for the first run. Made by a guy in 
>>>>>> Vermont I think. They will likely sell in seconds. No idea on a price 
>>>>>> for 
>>>>>> the frame/fork yet so who knows. Similar ugly as sin front dropouts as 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> Wombat is the only downside I could see from the teaser. Looks like 
>>>>>> something on a bike from Walmart. There is a picture on the ronsbikes 
>>>>>> instagram. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I looked but couldn’t find the full picture I had seen somewhere, 
>>>>>> sorry!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 8:04:21 AM UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven’t heard of the Ronnie aluminum ATB. Any details you can 
>>>>>>> post? A link? 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 6:26:46 PM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only conclusion I can come up with is N+1. I thought, maybe 
>>>>>>>> I’ll just sell my Susie, I absolutely love my Clem H. Had to take the 
>>>>>>>> Clem 
>>>>>>>> apart for service, it’s getting a new fork and a full powder coat job. 
>>>>>>>> Tried to throw the 2.5 Ehline from my Susie in just to see. Honestly a 
>>>>>>>> bit 
>>>>>>>> tight for my comfort. The Susie has tons of tire clearance for mud 
>>>>>>>> side to 
>>>>>>>> side, I couldn’t get much more height because I’m within 3mm of the 
>>>>>>>> brake 
>>>>>>>> (rubber boot, without I guess a 2.8 would fit with similar room) in 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> rear. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My Susie rides more lively and (likely the tire size) smooth. 
>>>>>>>> Unless I decide to have a custom frame made or go with something from 
>>>>>>>> Tanglefoot (71 degree seat tube angle!), I can’t see selling the 
>>>>>>>> Susie. I 
>>>>>>>> just kinda wish it was 27.5” in my size.  I like the smaller wheel for 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> exploration riding I do. The Susie has more clearance and the tubes 
>>>>>>>> flex a 
>>>>>>>> lot to give a nice ride. The Clem is stout and ready for anything. 
>>>>>>>> They are 
>>>>>>>> both such great bikes, if they fit your bike needs. But, catch me on 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> right day and a large gold Susie might be for sale!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anybody else excited to see the new Ronnie Romance aluminum (gasp!) 
>>>>>>>> ATB bike? 27.5x2.6 capable rim brake adventure bike. Nice. 
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 4:33:36 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only conclusion (?) I can get from this tire discussion on 
>>>>>>>>> Susie / Gus & possibly Clems is - get a duplicate set of wheels. One 
>>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>>> pavement / gravel, and a dedicated set for MTB with proper knobbies. 
>>>>>>>>> Anything less seems a compromise?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2022, at 12:14 PM, Brian Turner <brok...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’m running the Ehline 27.5 x 2.5 on my Gus currently. I had them 
>>>>>>>>> on a previous bike that was a dedicated trail bike, and I liked them 
>>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>>> that purpose a lot, so I knew what to expect. So far, I’m riding my 
>>>>>>>>> Gus 
>>>>>>>>> 50/50 dirt/pavement and I’ve actually been pleasantly surprised at 
>>>>>>>>> how well 
>>>>>>>>> they roll on paved surfaces. Pretty quiet, too. I doubt I’m going to 
>>>>>>>>> be 
>>>>>>>>> doing any long paved rides, but for knocking around town and shorter 
>>>>>>>>> paved 
>>>>>>>>> trips 30 mi or less, they are quite enjoyable. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All this said, if Jan H. decided to make a tire slightly bigger 
>>>>>>>>> than the Umtanum or Fleecer Ridge in the 2.5” / 2.6” range, I would 
>>>>>>>>> buy 
>>>>>>>>> them in an instant. Those RH knobbies perform equally well and roll 
>>>>>>>>> fast 
>>>>>>>>> and quiet on all surfaces in my opinion and experience.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2022, at 10:56 AM, Ryan Frahm <fra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’ll chime in on the Teravail Ehline vs the Ranger. Granted, I 
>>>>>>>>> ran a 3” Ranger tough vs the Light 2.5 Ehline, but the Ranger was 
>>>>>>>>> extremely 
>>>>>>>>> slow in comparison. I haven’t tried the Vittoria, but I’ve heard they 
>>>>>>>>> are 
>>>>>>>>> great tires. That being said, when I need new tires they will likely 
>>>>>>>>> be 
>>>>>>>>> Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge endurance casing. They are fantastic all 
>>>>>>>>> around 
>>>>>>>>> tires, worth the extra $ in my experience. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 9:26:16 PM UTC-7 
>>>>>>>>> mkernan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If we’re talking tires,  take a look at the Kenda Booster Pro.   
>>>>>>>>>> It comes in 29x 2.6 and 27.5x2.8 and both in 120 TPI with standard 
>>>>>>>>>> casing 
>>>>>>>>>> and a more puncture resistant casing,  both tubeless ready.    I 
>>>>>>>>>> have the 
>>>>>>>>>> 29x2.2 version and they are a surprisingly fast and not buzzy on 
>>>>>>>>>> pavement 
>>>>>>>>>> and very very grippy tire on gravel and single track.  I have them 
>>>>>>>>>> in the 
>>>>>>>>>> standard casing and they feel really solid and don’t squirm with 
>>>>>>>>>> running 
>>>>>>>>>> lower pressure.   
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A quick look at the tech specs and the claimed weights are very 
>>>>>>>>>> light for a 29x2.6 tire( 681 +/-34 g for the standard casing and 763 
>>>>>>>>>> +/- 
>>>>>>>>>> 38g for the more puncture resistant casing.   Again,  I only have 
>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>>> 29x2.2 tires so can’t speak of real world experience of the 29x 2.6 
>>>>>>>>>> or 
>>>>>>>>>> 27.5x2.8 but if the characteristics carry over,  it is a wonderfully 
>>>>>>>>>> fast 
>>>>>>>>>> and grippy tire
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2022, at 7:50 PM, Luke Hendrickson <
>>>>>>>>>> phendr...@paulpath.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate it. ❤️
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 7:45:47 PM UTC-7 
>>>>>>>>>> jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Luke,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm so sorry for your loss. What a nice story behind your 
>>>>>>>>>>> Atlantis. The build is great but the story behind it makes it extra 
>>>>>>>>>>> special. Thanks for sharing it with us!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 7:16 PM Luke Hendrickson <
>>>>>>>>>>> phendr...@paulpath.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate the input on the sorta terrain you’re on with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> them. Since my Riv 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://theradavist.com/rivendell-atlantis-review/> is my 
>>>>>>>>>>>> do-it-all, I spend time on fire roads, single track, paved, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in between. The Maxxis tires currently on the bike are tough 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wearing and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> durable. Supple is sorta down the list in desired qualities 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (although some 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultradynamico tires may be in my near future).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again, Paul.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> —Luke
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 6:02:36 PM UTC-7 Paul Clifton 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The 2.8" G-Ones are OK. Not great. Definitely not bad. The 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.8s only come in the DD Raceguard compound, which I don't think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supplest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're just really fat and a little hard to push on pavement. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But they are a lot of fun on the single track, and until I get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them into 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> some real mud, I think they're all I need. Basically, they ride 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really good touring tire, I think. Plenty comfortable, plenty 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plenty durable, but not especially supple or fast.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, the air pressure can really impact how supple they 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel, and to a degree, change how boggy they feel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd really like a 2.5" or 2.6" tire with a similar tread and a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suppler casing. The Scwalbe Big Ones were a chubby 60mm and they 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> favorite for a long time. They weren't quite enough on single 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> track,  and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the skinnier G Ones - 57mm - probably won't be either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really think these fat G-Ones do so well on the single track 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of their chub, not the tread. And I'm going to keep them 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> least long enough for me to ride them in the deep sand at the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> beach this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> winter. I have a feeling they'll do even better than the Big Ones 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the WTB Ranger was available in 27.5 right now, I'd give 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a try. I hear good things about the Teravail Ehline in 27.5 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> x 2.5, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it has a more aggressive tread than I want for riding on pavement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So for an all around bike that sees 50% single track and 50% 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pavement, I think these are about as good as it gets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 10:14:06 AM UTC-5 Luke 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hendrickson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul – great info and analysis. How’re you liking the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schwalbes? I’m tempted by them. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:42:12 PM UTC-7 Jason 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes good discussion! Paul, it's neat and surprising to hear 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from another Knolly rider here of all places - I rode a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chilcotin (the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> older 26" version) for a bunch of years!  Sold it about a year 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replaced it with an Esker Japhy steel hardtail as a bike that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was more my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> style, but still capable of riding black / double black trails. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely love the way a hardtail climbs, and rides in general 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I do find 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get fatigued quicker on it vs. the full suspension bike, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's all good things - I can still ride everything I ought to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be riding, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I'm tasked with a little more care in my line choices and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when to elect 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to walk, which is healthy. I'm fully committed to the plan of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picking up a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stooge mk6 when they come out next year to replace the Japhy, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and put 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself back in the realm of fully rigid steel bikes across the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> board. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 20 October 2022 at 15:24:26 UTC-7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder about this exactly. If something works for someone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am the last to question it. But, in my time off road with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Clem the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long stem and backsweep of the Bosco are GOLD! This position 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the way it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes the bike feel / handle are pretty much my only reason 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for considering 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Susie. I know it goes against everything that says “mountain 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike” but I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am looking to get away from straight bars. Just today I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swapped out a 12 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degree backsweep bar for a 35 degree one. Feels better but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not feel as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good as the Clem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 6:01 PM, Mike Packard <mrg...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm also enjoying this thread. One thing I've wondered 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about WRT Susie-Gus vs. Clem: Is the reach / effective top 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tube shorter on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Susie/Gus than Clem of similar size? I have a 59 Clem L that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is great but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even with a very short stem flat-ish bars are too far away. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:39:49 AM UTC-5 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings all. First, does anyone recall reading in one of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the updates about additional Susie / Gus bikes becoming 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second, who is using their Susie / Gus as their primary 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mountain bike?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Third, is anyone able to comments on a direct comparison 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between a Susie and a Clem L?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Clem never ceases to amaze me. It is, without doubt the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most comfortable bike I have ever owned. I am so ingrained to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my position 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the bike that I am now uncomfortable on my dedicated 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> singletrack bike - 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a full suspension bike with relatively strait handlebars. The 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clem is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really good off road and on mild singletrack, but its weight 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flexibility have kept me from giving it a go on some of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rowdy, rock and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> root strewn tracks I like to ride on the full squish bike.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I have no illusions about any rigid bike being as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plush and capable on these trails as the suspended bike. But 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do have some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience riding a rigid bike with big tires (Jones 29") and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I liked it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The notion of a bike that puts me in the exact same position 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as my Clem but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dedicated to singletrack has me more than a little intrigued.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Appreciate any comments / thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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