I have been running the Soma Cazadero 700x50 (they make 650x50) my Clem H for a while now and they have been a very nice all around tire. Just pulled them off to put the studded tire on and they still look new after several hundred miles. I love the Rene Herse tires though and think they are tough to beat. Sand has been the only downfall I’ve encountered on the RH knobby tires, they dig in too much to get any traction. The Cazadero has less overall grip and floats a bit better in those circumstances.
I will also say that I loved the Ultradynamico Rose I had a few years back. I had the race and never had any issues with them in some really nasty terrain. They were slightly slower on road than the others mentioned. On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:25:50 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote: > Im running freebies on my clem at the moment, but I think my fantasy setup > would be fleecer ridge front and antelope hill rear. I like knobby fronts > and smooth rear. Good compromise for rolling resistance, buzz, and trail > versatility. > > On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 10:34:56 AM UTC-7 DavidP wrote: > >> I'm thinking of a similar setup for my upcoming 700c Platy build but with >> a 50mm rear (with tread similar to your Gravel King SS) and 55mm Fleecer >> Ridge up front. >> >> A Rose \ Mars combo would certainly be a step towards a more trail >> oriented setup. I've yet to find any written impressions of the Mars on >> pavement. The Mars remind me of Continental Race Kings, which I recently >> put front and rear on a bike and find decent enough on pavement but seem a >> bit noisier than the RH Juniper Ridge I have on the front of another bike. >> I'm happy with the Race Kings for mixed use and the Mars was on my short >> list for the Platypus - they just lean a bit more to the dirt/trail end of >> the spectrum, which may be perfect for your Clem. >> >> I was waffling on trying to squeeze a pair of 2.25" Schwalbe Hurricanes >> on the Platypus - that one may work well on the Clem. It's wire bead but a >> decent weight; and I've seen several reports that it is silent on pavement. >> It should handle rougher terrain better than smaller tires and possibly >> have some cornering stability due to the side knobs. Still probably not a >> tire for hard corners on or off road. Definitely the other end of the >> spectrum in terms of tire technology/features/price from RH. >> >> Honestly, I don't think any of us expect a multi-surface tire to rail >> down trails so it's matter of choosing degrees. >> >> - Dave >> >> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 10:35:51 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg][image: image2.jpeg] >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 1, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Richard Rose <rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> The impossible question, right? And when I read Riv's intro to their >>> website tire offerings "we are not tire snobs" I almost feel guilty >>> obsessing over such things. "Just ride", right? I want the "do it all" set >>> of tires (aren't we all?). I have been quite happy with the Gravelking SS >>> 650 x 48 tires for all road / gravel and mild trail conditions. On a single >>> foray onto a truer singletrack they fell short in loose conditions and >>> sandy corners. So after exhaustive research I am considering a >>> Ultradynamica combo, Mars front / Rose' rear. Other contender is Soma >>> Cazadero. Naturally RH Untanum are a consideration but lack of side knobs >>> are a concern. I had Fleecer Ridge tires on my Jones 29 and did not think >>> the noise cancellation thing lived up to the hype - they were rather noisy >>> on pavement especially compared to the Gravelkings. Speaking of the >>> Gravelking, check out these pics. I was on a ride recently and felt a >>> "lump" in the rear tire on pavement. It disappeared when the ride turned to >>> dirt but was there again when I returned to pavement. when I got home all I >>> could discern was a slightly raised football shaped bulge and it was worn >>> smooth. Upon removal I was stunned by the amount of structural damage and >>> the fact that I did not flat. I wonder if something like this qualifies as >>> a defect? I will add the pics in a comment momentarily... >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1bf730ca-4e2a-4af0-917f-940b38eee556n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1bf730ca-4e2a-4af0-917f-940b38eee556n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/427167ad-0b86-4ec3-a335-9831915d59e0n%40googlegroups.com.
