I like the idea of moose bars but I don't like it them in practice.  I like 
my wrists in a neutral position, and with a moose bar that is not a given.  
Plus, once you realize this, they are relatively expensive to ship to a new 
owner.

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:53:34 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> This is extremely subjective and it matters a lot what the headtube angle 
> is on the frame the bar is going on, but I had a ChocoMoose for a while 
> (Cheviot? I think it was on a Cheviot) and the angle seemed fine to me. 
>
> If it matters at all to you the Granola-Moose has a lot more 
> flare/splaying-out than Choco. 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 3:34:44 PM UTC-8 George Schick wrote:
>
>> I got an email from VO today introducing a new product - the 
>> "Granola-Moose Bar."  Now, VO has always seemed to me to keep in semi-lock 
>> step with Riv and in this case I'd call it a variant of the Nitto 
>> Choco-Moose bar that they (used to?) sell.  The three differences I notice 
>> (maybe 3 1/2) are: the VO offering is in 1 1/8" threadless instead of a 
>> welded-in quill stem, it has a "cross bar" between the two curved handles 
>> with a slightly flattened section to allow for the mounting of lights, 
>> etc., it's available in both black and chrome, oh and it's about 2/3 the 
>> price that the Riv/Nitto version is/was.
>>
>> Laying all of that aside for the moment, what opinion do any of you all 
>> have about the Nitto bar that Riv offered if you have one?  I'm thinking of 
>> buying one of the VO versions to replace the "cow horn" bar that I 
>> currently have installed on my Surly 1x1 because 1) it has a threadless 
>> steerer and the Nitto won't/wouldn't work and 2) it comes in a black 
>> version and everything else on my headset, current threadless stem, and 
>> bars is black and I'd like to keep it that way.  BUT, and this is an item 
>> that I'd really like some feedback about, both of these bars, i.e. from 
>> either company, have a fixed, unadjustable angle because they're welded to 
>> the stem (or threadless clamp).  Has that lack of adjustment bar angle 
>> capability been a problem for any of the Choco-Moose users out there?
>>
>>

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