Exciting, I can’t wait to see it built up! I definitely double and probably 
triple checked on seatpost sizing. A 27.2 would have been really cool but I 
don’t find any need for my old titanium post on the Susie, it rides 
smoother than anything. 

Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the Gus! I have been feeling like I 
should have gone that way so I could load it up and never feel worried but 
I just love my quill stem! Will has assured me I don’t need to be worried 
at all with my 175lbs and a 30 or so camp load. I’m getting more 
comfortable feeling like she’s not fragile but…

Just a note, AVT bike is having a site wide sale up to 25% off. Tough to 
beat on Paul or White industries parts!
On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:00:57 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> The frame safely arrived yesterday. It’s huge. The color is beautiful. I 
> would have picked orange had the choice been available but now I’m happy 
> with mermaid. 
>
> The fork is on and the bottom bracket is in. I had forgotten how easy 9 
> speed cassettes install. 12 speed is such a pain. 
>
> Tonight I want to get on the brakes and size up the chain. I’m still 
> waiting on both derailleurs, tires, valve stems and a seatpost. I 
> mistakenly bought a 28.6mm post instead of a 26.8mm. 
>
> Hopefully everything shows up soon or I’ll start pulling parts from other 
> bikes to get this on the road. 
>
> I can not believe how big it is. That steerer tube was so long but then 
> the head tube swallowed it up. I can’t wait to ride it. 
>
> -Jacob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 16, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Mackenzy Albright <mackenzy...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> I wish I had tried flat bars (or nitto wavies) on the romanceur before I 
> sold it. I did appreciate it's slow speed maneuverability, especially while 
> climbing. it may have been a good compromise to drop bars vs swept backs! 
> Maybe it would have mitigated some of the front wheel lifting off bumps in 
> really low gearing climbs. That being said I ran my romancer with 26" 
> wheels and racing ralph 2.1's and felt like I was constantly getting pedal 
> strike. 650 was better, but I felt it lost some of the spryness I loved so 
> much. I am going to get a custom made based off the romancer with a few 
> tweaks. It was a memorable bike and very much enjoyed my time with it. But 
> agreed bikes are so much subjective! haha 
>
>
> the clem does love a decent! I also feel like the clementine was quite a 
> bit shorter than the JR. It's really a shame they didn't keep the original 
> clementine on the roster, I think it's a really swell feeling bike. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 8:20:18 PM UTC-8 Hoch in ut wrote:
>
>> Apparently, this is all subjective, because I felt just the opposite! 🙂 
>> The Clem was so long, much longer than what I’d been used to mountain 
>> biking for 30+ years. The trails here are fairly chunky, and maneuvering 
>> around rocks and/or high-centering became issues. I thought I’d adapt, but 
>> never could. 
>> The Romeo (with flat bars) handled razor sharp and I could weave around 
>> and over all obstacles without the fear of pedal strikes or getting hung 
>> up. We’ve got some steep climbs here and I never had a problem with the 
>> front end wandering. I just felt “at home” with it in just about every 
>> aspect. 
>>
>> One thing the Clem absolutely destroys the Romeo and other bikes is 
>> straight line descents. I could bomb steep gravel roads like Bode Miller 
>> soaring down a run. 
>>
>> Both good bikes. Just depends on what you prefer and are used to. I 
>> personally gave the long wheelbase a couple of tries but couldn’t ever come 
>> to grips with it. You might. 🙂
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 5:16:39 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>
>>> RE those comparing Romanceurs and Rivs 
>>>
>>> I loved my (XL disc) Romanceur - but have a bad shoulder / neck. I 
>>> couldn't run drops. It didn't handle that well with upright bars IMO. The 
>>> short wheelbase makes it hop  and wheelie a lot climbing. I love climbing. 
>>> It rode amazing with a shortish stem and towel racks, but was a real neck 
>>> destroyer. Looked great though. Hauled front basket cargo like nobody's 
>>> business. I loved it - but not for me. 
>>>
>>> I traded it for a Clementine 59 and (also bought a) Clem Smith JR 64. OG 
>>> clementine feels a tad like the Romanceur a bit with a bit more room in the 
>>> front for swept backs and appropriate chain stays to keep it on the ground. 
>>> Climbs wonderfully. Clem JR just cruises like nobody's business. One of the 
>>> most fun and cruisey bikes ive ever ridden. The more slack head tube makes 
>>> it a bit floppier than the Clementine with a high front load (ie basket or 
>>> porteur bag) Im likely going to keep the Clementine and part with the JR 
>>> only because of slight overlap and lack of space. 
>>>
>>> Now that I took the RIV plunge, having a high maintenance body that gets 
>>> pissed off easily, I can't imagine not owning a rivendell for my main ride 
>>> anymore. I dont think you can make a wrong decision. I think it comes down 
>>> to more or less tire size, aesthetics, and availability. Each has their 
>>> slight niche variations, but overall no matter what be amazing. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:47:06 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Triples are my fave. 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It’s the Mermaid color. They only had one in stock so the decision was 
>>>>> pretty easy. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now I’ll be going 3x9. I bought a NOS Ritchey triple recently to 
>>>>> put on my Long Haul Trucker but it’ll be going on the Gus. I could see 
>>>>> going 2x9 or 2x10 at some point. White Industries makes some really nice 
>>>>> stuff. 
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s funny because I just bought some Paul Motolite brakes for the 
>>>>> Trucker and now they’ll be pulled for the Gus. Back to the mismatched 
>>>>> v-brakes. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I still need wheels but I found a cheap set on eBay. They’ll do for 
>>>>> now. 
>>>>>
>>>>> The shipping notification just came through. Hopefully I’ll have it 
>>>>> early next week. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Luke Hendrickson <phendr...@paulpath.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Awesome!!! Which color is your Gus, Jacob? Very much looking forward 
>>>>> to seeing it built up. What sorta gearing you have in mind?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:41:13 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for all the replies. I ended up going with a Gus. C&L Cycles 
>>>>>> out of Montreal had a frame in stock. I've been eyeing parts for the 
>>>>>> build 
>>>>>> all day. My parts stash is pretty full so hopefully things will come 
>>>>>> together quickly on the build. Thanks again for the help! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 11:30:00 AM UTC-5 Mark Schneider 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Country roads, sounds like the Platypus would be perfect. The 
>>>>>>> Gus/Susie really is nice for washboard, and rough off-road rides, but 
>>>>>>> rides 
>>>>>>> great on the roads too. I have a large Susie, and I'm running Rene 
>>>>>>> Herse 
>>>>>>> tires, and I'm impressed with the responsiveness. It's very plush! Kind 
>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>> wish I'd gotten the Gus, just because I've packed on some weight and 
>>>>>>> there's a small drop-off I occasionally find myself going over. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 7:44:14 AM UTC-8 saxt...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks I’ll stop hijacking this thread and ask for more advice on a 
>>>>>>>> separate one.
>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 8:38:48 AM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’m running Albatross currently  it works well but I am looking 
>>>>>>>>> for something with a little less rise and sweep. I may have to just 
>>>>>>>>> bend my 
>>>>>>>>> Albatross out a little and call it good. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The bike itself is awesome. Coming from a Clem, which was too 
>>>>>>>>> heavy duty for me, this bike feels more springy and lively. Rides 
>>>>>>>>> fast on 
>>>>>>>>> the road and tackles dirt roads and singletrack with ease. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One knock I have is the fork feels a little stiff. I guess for 
>>>>>>>>> heavier front loads. But I wish it were a little more compliant. 
>>>>>>>>> Other than 
>>>>>>>>> that, it’s a great bike. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 3:19:22 PM UTC-7 saxt...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What bars are you running on the Romanceur?  I was about to start 
>>>>>>>>>> a similar thread looking for advice and one of my shortlist choices 
>>>>>>>>>> was the 
>>>>>>>>>> Romanceur..so curious about your set up. 
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:32:37 PM UTC-5 Hoch in ut 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv 
>>>>>>>>>>> rates them the same, as far as durability. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There’s been some good suggestions already. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, lugged 
>>>>>>>>>>> frame. 853 steel. 650b x 2.4” clearance. In my opinion, perfect for 
>>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>>>> ride that you describe. Mine rides light and springy (mine is the 
>>>>>>>>>>> canti 
>>>>>>>>>>> version). 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:55:02 AM UTC-7 
>>>>>>>>>>> jacob...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly a Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> years but 
>>>>>>>>>>>> something or other always came up. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles 
>>>>>>>>>>>> on paved country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> unpaved stuff is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do ride 
>>>>>>>>>>>> but any bike with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a 50-60 
>>>>>>>>>>>> mile ride. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in town rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> My solo 
>>>>>>>>>>>> riding usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> know the Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit 
>>>>>>>>>>>> better. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got 
>>>>>>>>>>>> broke in a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> fall last year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful). 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the road as the Platypus?  
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the help! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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